<p>Hello everyone. I'm new to CC as you can see so please tolerate my ignorance.</p>
<p>I've researched universities but i haven't come across any comprehensive information to explain how switching majors within the university works so i ask:</p>
<p>is it plausible or within the boundaries of convention to apply for upenn college as opposed to wharton and then switch after - say 1 year - and do a business degree in wharton? </p>
<p>thank you =]</p>
<p>this is a really frequently asked question. it is possible and difficult.</p>
<p>ah okay. thanks =]</p>
<p>to what extent is it difficult? like do i have to take some specific courses which touch on aspects of economics or business? or is it more of a GPA related problem?</p>
<p>it's pretty much all gpa - and very high grades are required</p>
<p>hmm i see. so would you say it's probably rather pointless to try and get into wharton that way since if it was easier, most people would be doing so?</p>
<p>when I visited, I asked that specific question. they said that they can usually tell when someone applies to CAS and wants to eventually go to wharton because so much of the application is based on "passion" (whatever that is) and it is difficult to feign interest in say econ when you really want business. from experience, i took their advice and just applied wharton</p>
<p>At the rate it's going by time you apply for a transfer after your freshman year the GPA requirement will be about a 3.85. 3.85 is very very tough to get in college, especially at Penn.</p>
<p>oh okay.. so i might as well try to get accepted elsewhere like georgetown or NYU and transfer?</p>
<p>no, because to transfer from there, you'll have to get just about a 4.0</p>
<p>why not just apply straight to wharton?</p>
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oh okay.. so i might as well try to get accepted elsewhere like georgetown or NYU and transfer?
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<p>No. Stop trying to trick the system or play some type of game so that you can increase your chances of getting in at Wharton. It won't work. For one, it's more likely to be harder to transfer in because of the extremely high GPA requirement. Also, the admissions representatives are on to this sort of scheme and are experts at sifting at people who are trying to do things like you're suggesting. </p>
<p>Is Wharton really that important that you are willing to waste a year somewhere else? Truthfully, there is no way for you to know since you haven't even attended yet. It's mentally unhealthy to focus yourself on a certain school to the degree you've showcased. I'm sorry to point it out but the odds are not in your favor (or anyone else's for that matter) and you need to explore your options and focus on other schools, as well. </p>
<p>Just apply to Wharton - Early Decision if you please.</p>
<p>haha i see, i wanted a clear and definite response as to where i should take it and i was provided for =]</p>
<p>thank you</p>
<p>I kinda disagree with Biochem. Though im not a penn student, i know a few ppl who have done so. Provided its really hard 3.8+ GPA, but its possible. And no its not tricking the system. If it were so bad then the authorities wouldnt allow for it in the first place!</p>
<p>^It's possible, but you're setting yourself up for dissappointment and failure if your main goal is to transfer into Wharton. If you get in no one is hurt. If you don't get in after second semester sophomore year, you're stuck at SAS, can't get a business degree for undergrad, have a bunch of electives that don't apply to any major you could want (accounting and stat), and will probably have had a miserable first two years where your only focus was grades and transfering.</p>
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And no its not tricking the system. If it were so bad then the authorities wouldnt allow for it in the first place!
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<p>Really? You don't think it's tricking/gaming the system? You're applying to SAS with an ulterior motive. </p>
<p>The transfer policy is in place because sometimes people's interests change. It's possible that a Chemistry major decides after a year (and after maybe taking a Wharton class as an elective) that his/her interests have changed to the business field. For scenarios like this it would be appropriate for a transfer. </p>
<p>But for someone who purposely applies to SAS with the ultimate intention of transferring to Wharton, it is wrong and unethical. One of the reasons for the very high GPA requirement is to weed out people who would try to do this. Trust me, the "authorities" clearly recognize this type of scam. But the reason they allow it is for people who's interests genuinely change over the course of their Penn career. </p>
<p>And I couldn't have said what Venkat89 said any better. He's exactly right. Like I said the odds are not in your favor of getting into Wharton, and it is idiotic to waste two years pursuing a goal that, in all reality, will probably not come true.</p>
<p>I know my posts have sounded a bit harsh, but one of things that annoys me the most is when people try to gain an edge in admissions through dishonest tactics.</p>
<p>ok so it is a bad practice lol , but it does happen , i mean ppl whose interests "change" , how do u differentiate them with the ppl who got in just for transferring to wharton? </p>
<p>Get what i mean . The guy who i know who did transfer actually said himself that it is harder to transfer internally than it is to get in as a freshman. But having said taht ppl DO transfer, i mean theyre humans right?</p>
<p>Having said all that apply to wharton myself.</p>
<p>^about 100 people will internally transfer, ~80 of them after freshman year. the thing is, the cutoff after freshman year is a 3.81 this past cycle for people finishing freshman year. if you search CC there is an article in the DP that cautions against transferring to Wharton written by a Penn student who did a dual between SAS and Wharton.</p>
<p>yea thats what im saying that alot of ppl (100 aint a small number)do it . For some it works out and they stay but some dont like business and transfer out again (thats what my pal said).</p>
<p>The main points are:</p>
<p>-- If you want to go to Wharton, your best shot is applying to Wharton. </p>
<p>-- There's nothing inherently wrong with transferring to Wharton from SAS, it's just not certain enough to constitute a valid plan.</p>
<p>-- What's dishonest is applying to SAS when you don't want to be there because you think it's a back door into Wharton.</p>
<p>" -- There's nothing inherently wrong with transferring to Wharton from SAS, it's just not certain enough to constitute a valid plan. "</p>
<p>I like that statement</p>
<p>"-- What's dishonest is applying to SAS when you don't want to be there because you think it's a back door into Wharton."</p>
<p>Alot of ppl wont care about dishonesty and shet. but just apply to wharton, u will most prolly be rejected but if ur like "omg im a 4.0 with 2000AP's" then u mite have a shot lol. But this alot better than spending 4 years at CAS doing a degree u dont want to.</p>
<p>JHS, </p>
<p>I couldn't have said it better. I agree with you exactly. Transferring has its appropriate place and time. As long as it is not abused it has a perfectly legitimate, and necessary purpose.</p>