I am a 12th grader and a potential immigrant. If I take a gap year, I’ll be eligible for instate tuition at NY. I go to one of the most competitive high schools in my country. But the national curriculum is not recognized abroad and our school seriously deflates our grades. Will my grades be a serious issue? Or can i cover it with SAT I and II?
Also, can I get full rides/full tuition waiver with just SAT scores?
Are you saying your parents got a job in New York state? Are you there yet? If not, when? You need to spend your 12th grade enrolled in a NYS school and your parents need to live, work, pay taxes, have a driver’s license from nys state for a year. In short, if you’re starting senior year, you need to do so in nys.
New York state doesn’t allow a student who graduated from his/her country’s system to register as a high school student.
Obviously you cannot be a resident if you’re on a visa. If you’re a citizen or permanent resident you need to graduate from a NYS high school to qualify for resident tuition.
What educational system were you enrolled in?
You cannot just do numerical translations. An A may be a 17 in Iran, an 8 in Italy, a 13 in France, etc…
What makes you think you will be eligible for instate tuition IF you take a gap year? Please clarify.
What ARE your SAT scores? What kids of grades DO you have in your HS courses? Have you taken the required courses for admission to colleges here?
Full rides, and full tuition scholarships are not all that easy to get for anyone. They are even harder to get for international students.
You are from Bangladesh. Your application will be reviewed along with all the other applications from your region…and that is a competitive applicant pool.
Where exactly do you want to apply for college here in the U.S.
Are your parents moving here also? If not, there is no chance you will get instate tuition at a NY public university…or any other, for that matter.
What do you mean by “the national curriculum is not recognized abroad”?
Do you mean that you believe that colleges and universities here don’t know how to interpret academic records from that country? Or do you mean that you won’t be considered to have a full secondary edcucation if you come here? Those are two different issues.
Most international admissions ofices are skilled at interpreting foreign records. Even those that aren’t can rely on external evaluations by organizations such as WES.org. Check their website for details about having your records evaluated.
If you will not be able to demonstrate that you have completed a full secondary education, depending on your age at immigration to the US, you will have the option of enrolling in high school here or completing a secondary school equivalent such as the GED exam series.
When is your family likely to get here? Do they have the option to come sooner? If you can get here before you turn 18 and can enroll in high school here, that would be your best option. You would graduate from that high school with a real US diploma.
We will probably be there in December and I’ll be returning after getting the green card to complete high school here. If I take a gap year, I will be holding a green card from NY for a year. I thought that qualified me as a state resident? I didn’t know the part about parents. And yes, my parents will be moving. If I don’t have in state status what’s the next best possible choice? Need-blind private colleges?
I am a national curriculum student(Bangladesh). High school ends here at 10th grade with a board exam. Then 11th and 12th grade are considered college. Then you give another board exam and go to a university. My rank in the first school was like 40/450 students. I got 80+(A+, They only give grades) in all subjects in the board exam and in my current school it’s like 200/2013. My GPA was around 4.3(on a 5.0 scale) in the former and the latter school ranks students with total numbers. And I have an average around 70. If my counselor mentions that the curriculum is rigorous, will that work?
I haven’t taken the SATs yet. I’m familiar with the pattern and have been practising in Khan Academy. I’m expecting 1400+. And I can score 750+ in all of my SAT IIs. (Physics, Chemistry and Math)
If you completed 10th grade then you’d have two more years of us high school ahead of you. It doesn’t matter how Bangladesh calls 11-12th grade. If you spend 11th and 12th grade in the us with a rigorous curriculum (honors and AP) AND have a green card AND score high in the SAT AND live in nys with your parents, graduating from HS in the state, then yes you’d qualify. You won’t qualify if you don’t attend HS in the state and your parents don’t live there.
(The free tuition scholarship is tied to parents paying taxes in the state since state taxes finance the state university system, not federal taxes.)
I will be considered to have a full secondary education because I know people who’ve gone there as international students studying under the same curriculum. But we can’t apply to Canada or UK with this. I was referring to the fact that the curriculum does not have global acceptance like british curriculum. And whether that would make the admission officers focus less on my school grades.
I talked with some of the students who went to the US from here and they advised me to mention the rigorous curriculum and said I could always compensate it with good subject tests. And that the school grades don’t matter much in our case.
No, holding a green card and taking a gap year, in and of itself, will not qualify you as a state resident in either the legal or public college residency sense.
Can I apply to private colleges with my father’s bangladeshi tax return and documents?
Yes you can, as long as you’re in your second year of Bangladeshi college* and can afford the fees.
So there’s no way for ‘not rich’ immigrants to study in the usa without taking TWO gap years or attending HS again?
Also, isn’t HS education in the US really expensive? And I can’t enroll if I’m over 18?
No, high school education is free. You can attend up to age 21 if you’ve not received a high school diploma (12 or 13th grade diploma, not 9th or 10th) in your home country. It’s been like that for over 100 years, in order to help young people who come from other countries integrate into American culture.
You asked if you CAN get a full tuition grant or scholarship if you only have SAT scores. Highly unlikely. States give grants to residents (like California), schools often only give scholarships to students who have high scores and grades.
But I think you have jumped several steps ahead. How are you all getting green cards (and those are federal, not state specific) immediately upon entry to the US? Where will your family be living? Why don’t you want to stay in the US for high school? If the green cards are through a parent’s job, will you qualify for need based aid?
There is a way. Get admitted to a college that meets full demonstrated need, and take advantage of the need-based aid that is awarded.
^ if your high school ends in 10th grade you will not “repeat” high school. Even if your curriculum was very advanced, High schools adapt - if you’ve exhausted offerings in one subject you can take classes through dual enrollment and/or in other subjects.
If you arrive in the US in December, and you are not yet 18, you can enroll in a local public high school (free) without any problems. You can remain in that public school system until you complete high school graduation requirements or until the end of the school ear in which you turn 21. The high school will evaluate your academic records and will place you into appropriate classes. They will do their best to help you graduate with a valid high school diploma in the most efficient time frame possible.
If you arrive in the US in December, and you have already turned 18, the public school might or might not allow you to enroll. That depends on local and state policies. @sybbie719 might know the rules for New York State. If you are not allowed to enroll in high school, you can complete the high school equivalency option offered by the state where you live.
Your family is immigrating to the US, and presumably plans to stay here. Presumably you are expecting to make your life here as well. There really aren’t many good reasons for you to return to finish high school there. These would be:
I teach adult education and I cannot tell you how many students I have had in my Adult ESOL and GED Prep classes who have been struggling with the system here because they waited to move to the US until they were 18 and consequently weren’t able to enroll in high school. Please don’t do to yourself that unless you find that you absolutely have to.
In NYC, you have the right to enroll in day high school until you are 21 years old. Your completion of grade 10 in Bangladesh is not the equivalent of being a high school graduate in NYS. When you attend school in NYC, you will be in the 11th grade (a junior) and you will need to meet the states requirement for a high school diploma including passing 5 NYS regents exams in English, Math, 2 Social Studies (while global can be waived, you must pass the US history regents in order to graduate), and Science. What ever high school you attend, they will evaluate your transcripts and program you for what you need to complete your diploma (make sure you bring official copies of your transcripts translated in English).
If you do not want to attend “day high school”, you are welcomed to enroll in district 79 for TASC (formerly the GED). The exam has gotten much harder and still covers that same content as 4 years of high school in NYS.
You will not be able to enroll in either CUNY (City University of NY) or SUNY (state university of NY). I would definitely recommend that you attend day high school, especially if you need classes in ENL (English as a new language). Depending on how you do on the NYS ELA and Math regents, you may be able to take some of your college classes through CUNY College Now, while you are still in high school. College now is free and they provide books but you must be enrolled in high school.
If you are a green card holder and your parents are not physically present in NYS, you will not be eligible for NYS aid (including the Excelsior Scholarship).
No, you will not be considered a NYS resident for tuition purposes because you and your parents are not physically present in the state ( if your parents are not physically present you cannot get state aid). In addition, you may risk losing your green card status. Given the political climate in the US and the partial travel band, I would not count on you leaving the US once you get here.
The OP is mkomg a LOT of assumptions.
It really depends on the type of visa the person arrives on whether the green card will be issued immediately. Many do apply and have it available immediately because they have waited out of country until ii is to be/is issued. My daughter came in on an IR-3 (immediate relative) and she got hers immediately. My niece’s husband’s took more than 2 years to process and he could come and go from the US all he wanted (Canadian) but he couldn’t work until he got his green card so lived and worked in Canada, and visited her in the US a few times a month.