<p>jshain - im not going to dignify your claims about my supposed Ivy rejection with a response or defense, its not worth it</p>
<p>cdz - Those are great stats. I was looking for them myself. Shows that Rice ranks up there with the “great Ivies” that are supposedly harder to get into. </p>
<p>If you take into account the ± 50 point statistical variance in SAT scores as stated by CollegeBoard, all the above scores are identical. Except for Brown, which has a uncharacteristically low ACT score… anyone know why?</p>
<p>cdz512, How do you discount the fact that HYP all had a 50 point higher top end on the SAT stats and the only Ivy with the same high-end range score was Penn? The higher low-end score at Rice is interesting, and I’m really not sure why, but an interesting stat nevertheless. Antarius, the Brown SAT score is low as well. There’s obviously a lot more that goes into the selection process than just test scores. </p>
<p>Antarius, It appears to me that you are applying this 50 point stat variance to the Ivy schools and not to Rice’s top-end (SAT) number. It would seem the more compelling argument for dispelling my reasoning would be to see if there are any statistics on applicants who applied to Ivy League schools and Rice and what those outcomes were.</p>
<p>You need to look at the ratio of athletes in these schools to overall population. We have a full Div I A football team, in a 3000 student population that probably has a significant impact on the overall stats.</p>
<p>I am applying the variance to ALL schools. The bottom of Brown is the ONLY stat that is not within 50 points of the other schools. Our top of 1530 is 50 points of the leaders in that respect. Dartmouth and Penn are within 50 points of our lower bound as well.</p>
<p>Im not saying that Harvard is a bad school. Just not the be all and end all of good schools.</p>
<p>Well, I can’t speak for everyone, but my class valedictorian had a weird experience with Top 20 schools. She applied early to Stanford, and she got rejected. She then applied to other top universities like Yale, Rice, and Harvard. She got wait listed for Rice (I think for Yale too, I never really heard back about that), but she was accepted to Harvard. I on the other hand, was like 18 ranks below her, but I was accepted to Rice Early Decision. Your admission plan definitely has a factor in admissions and all of that. I would have to say that once you’re applying to any Top 20 University, it’s really hard to say that “this school is easier to get into than that school” because they all take a holistic stance when dealing with admissions. Your interviews and essays hold almost as much weight as your test scores, GPA, and course rigor. None of these schools are “easy” to get into. Heck, in my application pool to Rice they turned down a triple legacy applicant with a 2400 on his SAT I. There are no guarantees in Rice’s process or any other Top 20 school’s process. I’m sorry that I don’t have any concrete numbers for you or anything like that, but I hope you can take my word for it.</p>
<p>I appreciate your input. It would be interesting to see what other results were, for applicants applying to the top-20 schools. Thanks again for sharing…</p>
<p>We are all aware that an admissions committee is comprised of humans. After having read thousands of applications, the committee will want to select a varied group of students that share one common thing that will make them a perfect fit. A piece of paper may not truly convey a student sometimes, and so there are interviews. In this process, the commitee’s emotions & intellect play the game and from experience, the combination of these two abstracts can truly be uncertain if seen comprehensively. This is why you must be humble during the admission rounds, and make your mind about which institute you truly want to attend because that way you seem persuant in paper and reality. :)</p>