<p>Hi I am trying to get into CSU-Long Beach or CSU-Fullerton. I am completing my AA degree at a community college in Florida and will have it completed at the end of the Spring 2011 semester. I will have 61 credits for General Business with a 2.27 GPA. As far as my GPA goes, I dropped out of University of Central Florida originally because I did the whole party thing and I let it get between me and school, which resulted in me having to transfer to a community college close to home and I earned a pitiful 0.89 GPA. The last three semesters I have averaged 3.8 GPA, which has improved my GPA overall to almost a 2.0 so I hope they take that into consideration. I am asian and frequently do community service for an elderly home. As far as high school, I was involved in SADD, FBLA (president for 2 yrs), French Honors Society, Spanish Honors Society, and the German Club. For FBLA, I competed in a district competition and placed 3rd for Business Procedures and advanced to the state competition. I was involved with the varsity football team, tennis team, and cross county team as well. I know the GPA initially does not show my potential but maybe if the universities notice the trend I have had lately they may overlook it. Please anything would help! Thanks and hope to hear from some of you soon!!!! (and please keep sarcastic and mean things to yourselves)</p>
<p>can someone help please?!?! :)</p>
<p>^^^ interesting. I want to know what happends</p>
<p>me too lol. the open date to start applying for fall 2011 semester is October 1st I believe. i would prefer to go to long beach but Ill take what I can. im going to be a full time student but at the same time im going to try to pursue an acting career, which is why i want to move out west and that these two schools are relatively close to los angeles.</p>
<p>any with ideas that could help? would sending a midterm progress report of my GPA help? anything?? :/</p>
<p>@any with ideas that could help? would sending a midterm progress report of my GPA help? anything?? 
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<p>Sorry no. It really depends on how prepared you are for you major at this point in time. Your chances are better for CSUF plus they have the stronger Theater department if are comparing to CSULB in that area. You could try but may want to consider a year at a ccc to finish any loose ends, get your GPA up a bit more, and qualify for in-state tuition.</p>
<p>You will not get in as an OOS student to any CSU with a 2.27. The CSUs do NOT look at grade trends, it is just a flat GPA number. </p>
<p>OOS transfers need to have at least a 3.5 these days to have any hope of getting into a CSU.</p>
<p>Go read impaction reports at the CSU sites. Many of the CSUs have listed the threshhold numbers for admissions for transfer students and a 2.27 isn’t even good enough for most <em>instate</em> California transfer students to get into a CSU.</p>
<p>LB and Fullerton are popular campuses – just isn’t going to happen. Again - go search out “impaction” and “transfer” and “GPA” at these CSU websites and you will see your numbers are far far too low.</p>
<p>@You will not get in as an OOS student to any CSU with a 2.27. The CSUs do NOT look at grade trends, it is just a flat GPA number.</p>
<p>–No BUT colleges do look at your whole transcript and commend improvement trends.</p>
<p>@OOS transfers need to have at least a 3.5 these days to have any hope of getting into a CSU.
Yes and No. It’s true that the GPA qualification is generally more strict to out of state applicants. As competitive it is for seats a student who has completed all of the many California requirements can transfer into CSUF with a 2.7 as an in-stater. I do agree that CSULB has a higher than normal GPA minimum requirement for CSU’s in LA area. I understand what you are saying though and agree which is why I suggested at least another year of community college courses.</p>
<p>so even if i have my associate’s degree completed here with that 2.27 gpa they wouldnt take me?</p>
<p>are there any extracurricular activities that you all can suggest to better my position on my application?? like any number of hours of community service?</p>
<p>@kmazza</p>
<p>The CSUs do <em>not</em> look at grade trends. Many colleges and universities do. CSUs do <em>not</em>. The CSU system’s application for transfer is basically to ask for identifying information (name, birthdate, etc) and your GPA from all colleges attended. There is NO personal essay included. There is NO recommendation letter from professors included. There is NO place to list extracurriculars or leadership positions. </p>
<p>And most importantly, they do NOT ask for any transcripts until AFTER the transfer student has been provisionally admitted. Put another way, the CSU OFFICIALS CAN’T EVEN “SEE” GRADE TRENDS because they do NOT have a single transcript in front of them during the decision process! </p>
<p>All the CSU decision committee (it is probably more of a spreadsheet) sees is the self-reported GPA. No transcripts. (One’s self-reported GPA <em>must</em> match transcripts that are sent AFTER admission or the offer is quite quickly yanked away.)</p>
<p>On top of the fact that it is IMPOSSIBLE for the CSUs to see “grade trends” (and they don’t even ask for a broken down GPA of "here is my crappy GPA from college #1 and here is my awesome GPA from college #2 – the transfer student reports one self-generated total GPA) … the CSUs are mandated to accept California Community College transfer students first. The CSUs lately are filling up the spots with CCCers easily. The few remaining spots (if any) go to competitive in-state 4year college transfers and then competitive OOS students.</p>
<p>For example, last year at SJSU, to even be on the wait-list for <em>IN-STATE</em> CCCers was a 3.5 gpa.</p>
<p>People need to realize that the CSU system is rigid, state-mandated to take CCCers first, and since CCCers with dismal 2.0 - 2.5s are now being turned away because of shrinking class sizes and high demand from in-state students, that OOS with equally terrible stats need to look elsewhere.</p>
<p>The OP is <em>not</em> an in-state student.</p>
<p>@stopnddrop - You are competing for a spot that doesn’t exist. California students with the AA completed with a 2.0 - 2.5 are being shut out from CSUs already. And the CSUs are mandated to take CCCer <em>first</em>. </p>
<p>The spots left over then go to OOS students - on a competitive level. 2.27 doesn’t even get close.</p>
<p>CSU application doesn’t even have a spot to list Community Service or ECs!!!</p>
<p>The CSU app is purely numbers driven - with a strict priority system of taking in-state CCCers first.</p>
<p>@annikasorrensen You’re wrong about the transcript thing… CSU’s want transcripts sent to them immediately.</p>
<p>@SMCguy</p>
<p>What I know for certain is that SJSU, SFSU, CSU Humboldt and CSU Chico do NOT want transcripts until AFTER admission is offered. That I am dead certain of since my daughter applied as a transfer to all four of them last year. (She is going to Santa Clara University instead now.)</p>
<p>Let’s just cut through the cr*p here.</p>
<p>From Fullerton website: [CSU</a> Fullerton Campus Specific Admission & Graduation Requirements](<a href=“http://ccctransfer.org/csu/csu-campuses/csul-fullerton-campus-specific]CSU”>http://ccctransfer.org/csu/csu-campuses/csul-fullerton-campus-specific)</p>
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<p>For Fall 2010 Admission</p>
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<li>CA residents outside of Orange County Community College or non-residents were required to meet a 3.70 gpa for admission</li>
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<p>Are we done yet? It might be that Fullerton (unlike SJSU, SFSU, Humb, Chico) asks for transcripts right away. But that 3.7 GPA is so high that “grade trends” are just not going to play here. There are too many kids with total GPAs of 3.6, 3.5, 3.4, 3.3, 3.2, 3.1, 3.0, 2.9, 2.8 etc for the CSUs to care about the “grade trend” thing of a kid with a 2.27. CSUs are <em>not</em> a comprehensive review college.</p>
<p>The language is clear - 3.7 gpa REQUIRED. Not “most recent semesters are at least a 3.7”. </p>
<p>If OP has $50 to waste and likes pinning hopes on the impossible, then he absolutely should knock himself out and spend the cash and the hour or so on the app.</p>
<p>Understand that I am trying to be helpful as well as realistic towards assisting what a person could do to increase their chances instead of putting down people who are trying. If the person was serious about pursuing an acting career then I suggested enrolling into a CCC until they could get their GPA up some more. This person would not likely be accepted to CSULB but if went to OCC for a year or so and brought their GPA up to at least 2.7 then they qualify for entry into CSUF. Their OCC transfer minimum requirement is 2.0-2.5 and their Theater program is excellent and not terribly impacted. It is possible but definitely not where he stands now which I understand and agree with.</p>
<p>@kmazza</p>
<p>No. This plan doesn’t work either. One needs to read carefully how CSUs classify a student as a “local” student from the “local” community college.</p>
<p>To be classified as a <em>local</em> OCC student, the student must have the MAJORITY of the credits earned at OCC. Meaning, if the student has 30 credits from OOS, the student must earn 31 (more) credits directly at OCC. </p>
<p>This rule is to prevent in-state or out-of-state students from just moving to a targeted CCC the semester before transfer and claim themselves as “local”. (The state is truly trying to accommodate true locals who truly have been going to the local CCC. Not an OOS who slides into town a few months in advance to game the system. The CCC/CSUs have thought this through and the policy of what it means to be “local” is quite clearly stated.)</p>
<p>I get you are trying to be helpful–so am I. The reality is stark in California right now and both in-state and OOS students need to <em>dig deep</em> into the websites of the CSUs to figure out exactly what is going on. There are many misconceptions happening - one of them is that the term “local community college” just means going there a few semesters. Some also mistakenly believe being local means just living in the same county, etc. That is wrong - in CSU parlance, “local community college” means a student has earned the MAJORITY of his/her units at that specific local community college in the specified county.</p>
<p>There is not much that can be done to help an OOS student with a 2.27 get into a CSU these days. This news seems shocking. A 3.7 for OOS students? Yes. That is the case up and down the state for many of the CSUs.</p>
<p>PS. I took a whole 4 minutes on google to find the following on CSULB: <a href=“http://www.csulb.edu/depts/enrollment/admissions/transfers.html[/url]”>http://www.csulb.edu/depts/enrollment/admissions/transfers.html</a></p>
<p>*Have a minimum, overall college GPA of 2.00 or higher in all transferable college course work attempted. Non-residents must have a minimum GPA of 2.40.</p>
<p>*Due to the California budget crises, enrollment may continue to be severely restricted for Fall 2011. As a result, CSULB does not encourage applicants with a transfer GPA less than 2.5 to apply unless they are applying to non-impacted programs and are from one of our local designated community colleges (Long Beach City College, Orange Coast College, Golden West College and Coastline Community College). </p>
<p>The 2.27 just doesn’t cut it. Realistically, even OOS who make the 2.5 threshhold are probably not going to get in (recall Fullerton’s 3.7 needed.)</p>
<p>Yup. All what you are saying is true. The OP would nearly have to obtain another AA/Certificate and/or tons of art prereq’s at a CCC if wanted to compete on getting into a CSU art/theatre department. California is very picky on what students and classes they accept from other states and has additional requirements as well. Transferring to California with an AA would be both a curse and a blessing. If the OP really wants to attend a state school here he is looking at least another 2 years of CCC classes with a B or better. If the OP is not willing to do that he would be better off just going to FSU which is just as good a state school but may not have or cater to what he wants.</p>
<p>Thanks everyone for your honesty and I guess it looks like i will just transfer in-state here to either back to Univ of Central Florida or to Florida International Univ. The main thing for me is to be in a major city and to leave Tampa. But if all else fails, I know that I can easily get into Univ of Tampa because they don’t really have any challenging standards to get in.</p>
<p>Did you apply for csulb or csuf spring 2011 transfers? The deadline was originally aug 31st but then i think it was extended until Sept. 27th. Either way I applied as a lower division transfer to long beach with a gpa of 3.3 for fall 2010 csulb, and I didn’t get in. It might have been because I was lower division, however now I am applying for upper division transfer for spring 2011, and if they do not accept you for spring your application rolls over for fall 2011. </p>
<p>They recently published an article, and since the state budget has been passed they are accepting “between 1,200 to 1,600” transfers for spring out of the 3,300 that applied. So your chances if applied for the spring are basically 50/50. Last year the school got a massive amount of applications and took only 5%, so cross your fingers they’re trying to make up for it this fall too.</p>
<p>apply to csu san marcos, ull get in</p>