It’s insulting to B and C students who wish to attend a 4-year university to imply they don’t deserve it, and deserve only to learn a trade - which in turn insults plumbers and electricians, implying they could not have been A and B students in high school, or that they were lazy or not bright.
“Only” learn a trade? I have a trade myself and I highly value tradesmen of quality. What are you trying to imply here?
And then we can talk about the implication that someone doesn’t “deserve” it…
Given her SAT score (CR+M=800), a Community College (CC) Nursing Program might be her best option. She might then proceed to do an ADN-To-BSN bridge program for her BSN. There are a number of advantages that CC offer lower performing students. Smaller class size, good remedial courses, excellent teaching, good textbooks (often tailored to CC students) and of course, very low NC Tuition rates (~$72 per credit). Your daughter could also apply directly to a nursing program at a NC CC, if remedial courses are required. One of the benefits is that (some?) North Carolina CC nursing programs tend to integrate their nursing prerequisites directly into their nursing program itself.
https://www.coastalcarolina.edu/academics/programs/aas/aas-nursing/
This is different from the Nursing Programs in many states, where students must first complete their prerequisites outside of the nursing program and then apply to the nursing program (ADN or BSN). At UNCG, students have to complete their nursing prerequisites and apply for admission to the BSN program, which is very competitive:
YAY!!! Acceptance #3 came in today!!!
@happykid2. Hey, just wanted to add my two cents. Someone mentioned Campbell in NC. I have one kid there and one who graduated from there last May. They have a great nursing program. They are also division one, so if she wants to cheer in college, it would definitely be possible. Good Luck with your daughter, I am sure she will find a good fit!
69: So incredibly inspiring and powerful. Thanks for that link.
"Despite the prestige, travel and opportunity to perfect his art, it was a period of intense solitude and introspection for Benavidez: “I was giving so much of myself to the music. I wanted to retreat,” he said.
At times, he tried leaving his cello in the unlocked trunk of his car, or in the lobby of his apartment building, hoping someone would steal it. But no one ever did."
I’d like to suggest that all students and their parents look up the NCLEX pass rates for any nursing school they are considering–many low ranking schools accept students with GPAs and SAT scores well below 550 for Critical Reading and Math SATs – unfortunately they struggle because they don’t have the necessary foundation, yet take their tuition money all along…if and when the make it to graduation, they can’t pass the NCLEX boards and can’t get a nursing job! All states in the country post the scores – you will be very surprised how many schools have pass rates of 60% or less! Good Luck to everyone 
@bjkmom - any other updates yet?
I wanted to add some schools in the Midwest.
My D is a B student, and we looked into, or toured some of these schools… One, Indiana State, she stayed on their campus for a week during a band camp.
These all seem to accept B and C students:
Southern Illinois University - Carbondale and Edwardsville
Eastern Illinois University
Western Illinois University
Southeast Missouri State University
Indiana State University
Bowling Green State, Ohio
St Cloud State University, St Cloud MN
Minnesota State University, Mankato MN
University of Wisconsin-OshKosh
University of Wisconsin-Stevens Point
University of Wisconsin- Superior (public LAC)
Elmhurst College, Elmhurst IL
Dominican University, River Forest IL
Augustana College, Rock Island IL
We’re still sitting on 3 acceptances. He did get one rejection-- but from a school he was never really sold on anyway.
He has 2 top choices-- he’s in to one and waiting on the other.
@BeeDAre: I’m curious, how do you feel about Edwardsville vs. Carbondale?
@bjkmom : congratulations You and he must feel very proud and less stressed than you expected!
Oh, he’s a pretty typical (well, not “CC Typical”, but typical) 17 year old boy… “Don’t stress, mom, I’ll get into a college.”
But getting into one of his top choices so early in the game DID bring out a big smile
@MYOS1634 , Well, SIU-Edwardsville is very suburban in feel, and more of a commuter school, and newer;
SIU-E’s campus is not walking distance into town. A car is needed to get around the local area. There are a lot of commuters, as it’s part of the St. Louis metro area. They have built residence halls, though, in recent years. (When my husband was there, in the mid-70s, they only had apartments for students wanting to live on campus.)
SIU-Carbondale is the original campus - older, more traditional, older buildings (but some new ones mixed in…) and a very natural, wooded campus. (A tour guide told us that the family who’d donated the land for that part of campus requested that the wooded part never be cut down, or landscaped - although paths have been made through the woods - and be left natural.)
SIU-C is walking distance into downtown Carbondale and to the Amtrak station, which serves Chicago and St. Louis (and further south, I believe…) It is a residential campus, but it seems most upper classmen live off-campus. But campus and town blend into one another… but overall, seem to be fewer native commuters at Carbondale.
Carbondale is more of a college town - Edwardsville still seems like just another suburb, to me.
Both offer Engineering. SIU-E has nursing, too - I don’t know if SIU-C has nursing or not…
Carbondale has a wider variety of majors in general, though.
That’s my take on the two, anyway - my H attended Edwardsville back in the 70s when it was still fairly new. He drove us around campus a few years ago. One of D’s friends is there now - she got a full ride to their nursing school, so she was not a C student - but i know she could have afforded to go elsewhere, but she chose the full ride and Edwardsville. I saw her parents recently and they said she is very happy with her decision and apparently having a traditional residential college experience there. It does seem Edwardsville is attracting more students from all over the state…
I read somewhere that enrollment is up at SIU-Edwardsville, but going down at SIU-Carbondale - and at Eastern Illinois in Charleston. I’m not sure what that pattern is all about, but it may be about suburbs vs. rural/small rural town, because Edwardsville, like I said, is basically part of the St. Louis area.
@BeeDAre: thank you so much! I’m sure this will be very helpful to many students and parents. I do wonder why Carbondale is losing enrollment.
OK, here’s a story to add to our tale:
The other night my son got an email from one of the schools to which he’s applied. “Congratulations on your acceptance to . You’re invited to a reception at _( close to us) where you can meet members of the faculty and have your questions answered.” type of email.
He responds: “Does that mean I’ve been accepted? I haven’t received a letter of acceptance from you yet.”
Their response: “Oops, sorry. Sometimes we make mistakes too. You’re invited to a reception at ____( close to us) where you can meet members of the faculty and have your questions answered.”
He responds: “Does that mean I’m not accepted yet?”
Their response: “That’s correct; this is not an indication of acceptance.”
So he changed his status on Naviance, then changed it back 20 minutes later.
Honestly, it’s not a big deal. My guess is that one office got a list of acceptances, but another hasn’t yet gotten around to mailing them out.
But had he not yet gotten any acceptances anywhere else, I think it would have been pretty frustrating.
Yikes. That’s unsettling.
Yeah, I’m not totally sold on the “Oops, sorry. Sometimes we make mistakes too” line.
I would have much preferred something along the lines of “We’re so sorry; we jumped the gun. Your acceptance should be arriving any day now.”
Is this a denial or a deferral?
One of the schools my D applied to sent a letter stating"we’re sorry we could not accept you at this time"…last paragraph says “if you would like to he reconsirded for admission please send updated test scores and/or transcript”
We figured it was a denial, and since we have 3 acceptances did not cry about it. Later we learned her best friend who has a lower GPA, but scored 50 points higher on the SAT got in.
We emailed the admissions counslers and they confirmed that they always reconsider updated and new scores etc…
Is this considered a denial or deferment? If next round of scores come in higher should we send those in hopes of getting in or save the heartache of being told no.
Deferral. It means happykid2 is borderline but strong first semester grades or better scores could make a huge difference . Plus, you dont need to reapply - just grades and test scores!
@bjkmom I hate those type of administrative screw ups in these cases where it can cause an emotional high and then a let down. But then, I hope, a high again. Yikes.
@happykid2-- that is confusing, but they are leaving the door cracked open, so if you have something that could push it open, might as well send it in. Unless you have lost interest.
My B student has four acceptances! So thankful for rolling admissions. Plus, those schools are smart, I think. Now that she has heard from four, she is not likely to apply to any others on her list. Maybe one more application will go out – she is intrigued by the idea of going to a girl’s school. Just need to figure out which one that is attractive to her that might seriously consider a B student . . .
Her second choice school (she was deferred from her reach school) came through with a little $$, too, so she is feeling the love there. She wants to make her choice and be done now! I am trying to get her to stay open minded so we can visit a couple that she hasn’t been too before she commits. One of the schools is Temple Japan, though, and as much as I would love to visit, I don’t think we can squeeze that one in. So, decision will have to be made without visiting that one, I think.