<p>Okay, first off, Canada. It is said to be a land of acceptance and kindness and brotherhood, but it is all true? I mean, I hear people saying they want to move to Canada because it has better politics, rights, and vibes.</p>
<p>Next, coming from an East Coaster, is California really all it is cracked up to be? It is said to be tolerant, better education, more diversity,with amazing beaches and such. Is it true, or just a stereotype?</p>
<p>^ Sorry for the generalizations in advance.</p>
<p>Maybe not politics or rights, but "vibe" I would say canada is better. for me.</p>
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Next, coming from an East Coaster, is California really all it is cracked up to be? It is said to be tolerant, better education, more diversity,with amazing beaches and such. Is it true, or just a stereotype?
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It really depends what part of California, since Southern/Northern are vastly different, I would assume...</p>
<p>I'm from SoCal, and I guess even that could be a generalization. It's tolerant, for the most part (you have the occasional...retards). Beaches are awesome, yes...Education depends on the school, as like all areas. Diversity? I would presume it's much more diverse than like the South or Mid-Atlantic or something, with many more immigrants and such. </p>
<p>Um. yeah. The general stuff... Not really vastly different or drastic, really. I'd assume CA to be more like NY or something, more cosmopolitan and diverse, etc.</p>
<p>I hear that the Silicon Valley is one of the nicest places to live in the entire world.</p>
<p>^^ Thanks for the input :)</p>
<p>I'm from SoCal and it really does depend. There are high schools here that are tops in the nation, and then you have those miserable inner city schools with some of the lowest test scores and graduation rates you'll see anywhere. The beaches are very nice, aside from a few dirty ones. And the diversity? Well, I think there's a fair share of diversity here. You'll mostly see a lot of Asians, Indians, and Hispanics in SoCal.</p>
<p>I wouldn't call California overrated, but it's not exactly how it's portrayed in The OC, either.</p>
<p>I used to live in SoCal, it is really overrated. It's an ok place to live (too fast for my taste), but the vacation-esque feeling that is portrayed fades very quickly.</p>
<p>Canada, since something like 80% of the population lives within 90 miles of the US border, it's really a lot like small-town America, but a lot cleaner (there are less cars because many of the towns are so much smaller). It's not the Utopia though that many extreme left-wingers proclaim it to be.</p>
<p>More tolerant? Not really.</p>
<p>Better education? Some schools yes, others no. Your typical 'Memorize all this, spit it out, and forget it" education that plagues the US (primary/secondary school)</p>
<p>It's pretty diverse. A lot of people come here because of the weather/geography.</p>
<p>Beaches are def nice, but some are pretty polluted.</p>
<p>I've lived in different parts of California all my life and I would say that SoCal is overrated and the Bay Area is vastly underrated. I know there isn't one universal "best place to live", but the South Bay/Peninsula is as close as an American is going to find. I'm obviously biased, but there is access to beaches, ski resorts, world famous universities, big cities, one of the strongest economies in the U.S, a housing market that continues to thrive in the poor economy and the headquarters of some of the most progressive companies around. I'll be sad to leave next year.</p>
<p>The answer depends on your frame of reference. When comparing Canada and California with America as a whole, they'll fare substantially better in a relative sense; however, if you treat them in a normative sense, then they are not all that they are cracked up to be. In an absolute sense, California's educational system is abysmal, large swathes of it are racially segregated, and you have people running around trying to end affirmative action (a movement which has enjoyed some major victories in CA) and ban gay marriage (despite the recent judicial ruling). Similarly, Canada shares many of the problems that are endemic to center-right developed nations, although to a lesser extent than the US.</p>
<p>canada = fake</p>
<p>cali = awesome</p>
<p>Thanks you all.</p>
<p>The Bay Area is awesome.</p>
<p>I haven't noticed that the people in Canada are that much different from Americans (I'm Canadian). We're maybe a bit more laid back, but nothing crazy. It depends largely on region and whatnot, just like it does in the US.</p>
<p>My SIL is Canadian (well, American, by now). When we attended their wedding in Toronto, I couldn't believe how paranoid some of the attendees were about the US. I'm sure alot of it was the much stronger alcohol talking.</p>
<p>I had to inform them that no, in fact, most Americans rarely even think about Canada (unless you live in a border region like we do) and are not constantly formulating our national policies based on how to make them miserable (ICBM's, beef trade, environmental issues). And no, we are not planning an invasion (though I seriously think it might be an idea to consider, I'm pretty sure the Minnesota National Guard could take them-jk). I think they assume since they get so much news out of the US up there that we get tons of Canadian news down here which is not true.</p>
<p>Seriously though on the issue of a hostile takeover, the US would probably invade Mexico first since they have Cancun and resort areas and all of the great archealogical sites and a lot of great UFO sightings. (Ever notice how you don't hear about Loch Ness or UFO sightings in the Northwest Territories?)</p>
<p>The things I don't like about the Canadians are state controlled television (i get CBET as a local channel) and they way they are constantly trying to put a national spin on everything. Turns out not everything is an agenda, sometimes people just do their own thing. Canadians seem to spend alot of time nationally reassuring themselves that their system works. We are addicted to Sunday broadcasts of curling during the winter and I like watching their Olympic broadcast coverage of events such as track where the broadcasters are constantly saying "well, at least they did their personal best" after they can't get out of the second heat of the competition. I also don't like converting to Celsius.</p>
<p>If I had to move to Canada I would go to PEI or Nova Scotia. Although Toronto is one of the cleanest cities I have ever been to (with some of the craziest drivers to boot.)</p>
<p>I have opinions about California but none are based on actually living or traveling there. They are based on having two brothers who have lived there and meeting people from there. None of my opinions are positive outside of Travel Channel reasons so I will keep them to myself until I get more first hand knowledge.</p>
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Maybe not politics or rights, but "vibe" I would say canada is better. for me.
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<p>QFE .</p>
<p>the show OC is not a great representation of the real Orange County itself. there are some really dirty cities like Santa Ana that are filled and infested with illegal immigrants or sons/daughters of illegal immigrants. some cities like irvine which i used to live are populated by only asians and whites. some cities like diamond bar, arcadia, and rowland heights have more asian people than white people. like the people who said before, the beaches are def the better ones and nowhere in the united states is there a better weather than SoCal. some places are too cold, too hot, too humid, too windy, etc, but california's weather is too perfect. i dont know much about nor cal but socal = best place to live in.</p>
<p>I'm originally from SoCal but moved up to Northern California ten years ago. I don't really see a difference besides the fact that the beaches up here are a little colder and much more scenic. It's much nicer to live in and a lot prettier. San Francisco is one of the most beautiful cities in the world to me. And the Bay Area is cool too. We actually have trees. Rain in the winter, sun in the summer, the leaves change colors in the fall...What could be nicer?</p>
<p>i'm sorry, wuts QFE?</p>
<p>i visited san francisco last summer. too gay and liberal for my taste</p>