<p>Sup everyone? I'm canadian kid who will be considered in-state applicant due to that establishing Texas residency rule. So...I have a couple q's.</p>
<p>1) This is too good to imagine. Will I really be considered exactly the same as another Texas resident? I know the top 10% rule won't apply (need to be from a texas high school and I live in Windsor, Ontario, Canada and go to a high school here). However, for all other aspects, will I be COMPLETELY considered an in-state applicant and won't be hindered in any way at all?</p>
<p>2) Financial Aid...how much can I get, will I get any? I don't necessarily need it, but it'd be really nice to let my parents save up for med school in the future. So, if I am considered an in-state applicant, will I have the opportunity for the SAME amount and chances at financial aid as other texas residents? Or will it be harder (I am in Canada afterall). </p>
<p>3) Also, SCHOLARSHIPS, will I get them/be able to get them? I know that they could offer me scholarships based on academic achievements, but will going to a Canadian high school and such not allow me to access these scholarships?</p>
<p>So, would I be a "lock" for UT-Austin if I am top 5% in my high school here and have 2100+ SAT scores? Or would it still be difficult for me? (ie. can this school be considered a safety for me or not)</p>
<p>Thanks a lot, can't believe I didn't find this forum earlier! Hook 'em Horns!</p>
<p>EDIT: If this school has a lot of top 10% applicants, then wouldn't UTA be very competitive as well, in terms of the actual classes? Just thought of this after looking up that 80% or so are guaranteed admission after they are in the top 10%. Being a premed, is it cutthroat or is it laid back and chill? Just trying to gather some opinions. I hope to visit in the summer (cousins live in Houston, so I could combine the 2 into one trip down to Texas).</p>
<p>I won’t address the Tx residency question, but to qualify for federal financial aid, you must be a US citizen or permanent resident (with a green card).</p>
<p>UT doesn’t just offer scholarships based on your stats, you have to apply for scholarships through the ApplyTexas app (for new students). If you are awarded a competitive scholarship of at least $1000, you may be eligible to pay in-state tuition rates, even if you are not a Texas resident.</p>
<p>my dad works in texas (last 3 years) and pays some taxes and such, so my mom called the admission office and they said I would be considered an in-state applicant and i would have to submit the same application form as a texas resident would. I would not fill out an international student application. I will get in-state tuition if accepted as well. My dad is considered a texas resident, and since I will be under 18 when I go to UT-Austin, I will still be dependent upon him, so I will be considered in state as well. (This is all coming from the people that work at UT-Austin. They said they need a signed document from my dad’s job saying that he’s working there for 3 years. Also, my dad has visas and such…not sure what the names are…but he has some visas for working in the US and such).</p>
<p>Ok, so I must apply for scholarships then. Will applying for scholarships hinder my chances of getting in? Or do they not consider than when applying? Basically, my parent are able to afford the in-state tuition, but some extra money in return would be nice, but I don’t want this to limit my chances of getting in. </p>
<p>Thanks for the answers everyone, I really appreciate it. I’m trying to look up some info., but I’m so busy with exams, hockey and everything. Also, you are all US citizens/PR so you would know more than me about US colleges and admissions. Thanks!</p>
<p>And could you try to answer number 1) on the original, first post? Also, if applying for scholarships affects my chances of getting in (or does it have no effect), and if I would be a “sure bet” to get in since I am applying with the same application as in-state students (they specifically told me over the phone to not use the term international when applying at all, and that i am in-state). I know the top 10% rule won’t apply to me, but will my stats alone get me in? Seems to good to be true.</p>
<p>Try to get this in writing - this sounds great, sounds like your dad meets the “texas residency” requirement so you will get in-state tuition. That makes the price of UT quite reasonable compared to other well ranked U.S. colleges.</p>
<p>Go ahead and try for scholarships; they will not hold it against you during the admissions process.</p>
<p>Hmmm… While you are at UT, is there any disadvantage to being from Canada… </p>
<p>Here’s a minor one that would apply to any student from outside the U.S.: the Texas requirement for four semesters of U.S. History and U.S. Government classes (which must include Texas goverment). These might be harder for you than for U.S. kids who have taken lots of U.S. history and U.S. gov already.</p>
<p>There are plenty of students at UT who are from outside the U.S.</p>
<p>oh, geez, never knew about those requirements while at UT. I have only taken a general Canadian history course in high school last yr. (sophomore year). </p>
<p>So, I need to take 4 of History AND 4 US.gov.? Isn’t that a lot? That’s 8 semesters of courses I wouldn’t normally take considering I will take the premed courses. Is there any way to avoid taking these at UT-Austin? Maybe take them at a community college or something in the summer before going to UTA? Or maybe in the summer after freshman year or something?</p>
<p>Two semesters of each, four semesters total. Were you thinking you’d apply to the College of Natural Sciences for a bio major, or what? If you are in the College of Liberal Arts you need a four-class minor anyway, so with either of these, you’re already half way to a minor in history or gov.</p>
<p>The “by law” requirements are Gov 310 and 312 (hard to take elsewhere; 310 includes Texas history and they are picky about what exactly is equivalent to 312 - but you could take 312 as a UT on-line extension course some summer for an extra $500) and ANY two classes that count as American history. It would be easy to take the two most likely topics (“U.S. history to 1865” and “US history 1865 and later”) at any U.S. community college, or maybe you can find them on line. We were told that these are hard classes to get A’s in at UT, but I suppose it depends on the prof. Taking them elsewhere is a reasonable idea. Students who have a year of AP US History and passed the APUSH test get credit by exam for these. Or, other classes that have something to do with U.S. history count, so you might find something that is really entertaining to you that meets the U.S. History requirement. Look at the online registrar site under the history classes for ideas about which classes meet the U.S. History requirement - it says something like “Partially fulfills U.S. History requirement” in the notes about the class. (I thought History of the Black Panther Movement sounded WAY more interesting than “U.S. history to 1865” or “US history 1865 and later”, for example, if I were the one registering for classes.) </p>
<p>My daughter took American Studies for one of her two U.S. History required courses, and they covered a lot about industry and inventions. She said it was pretty interesting.</p>
<p>By the way, UTA is UT Arlington. UT in Austin is called UT for short. </p>
<p>Did you read about how UT chooses students who are not from the top 10% of a Texas high school? It’s a holistic review using an academic index and a personal achievement index. You can’t get in on grades and test scores alone. </p>
<p>I think you are very likely to get in with a 2100+ SAT score, assuming your grades and admissions essays are also very good. (If you apply, apply early and apply for on campus housing the instant your status page says your application is complete.)</p>
<p>thanks so much for the advice! I would’ve never known these things if it had not been for you MidwestMom2Kids_!!! I will be applying to the College of Natural Sciences btw, but I don’t know what major yet…something Bio-related, not physics/math/chem. </p>
<p>Ok, so I could take those 2 American History classes as a community college then. This is good because I don’t want my premed GPA taking a hit just because of a course that isn’t even science related and that I wouldn’t be obliged to take if I went to a diff. school outside of Texas. And I would assume getting an A at a community college is easier than at UT.</p>
<p>Ok, so would you think applying at the end of September is too late, just fine, or to premature? My school opens in September, and I think a month for recommendations, guidance letters and such would be enough time. And I know Texas schools require a diff. app. (not Common Ap.), and the Common Ap. requires you to fill out courses you have took that year and marks received. So, does the Texas Ap. have this? And how would I fill that section out if I don’t have any midterm marks yet?</p>
<p>And would you know when acceptances are sent and when you must provide an answer by? And yea, I heard housing is limited at UT and that you need to apply really early to even have a slim shot at a type of room.</p>
<p>***and so, it UT really competitive in premed? Will the enormous class sizes make it harder to get an A? Would it be better to go to…say Baylor or such a school instead of UT if its hard for the premed’s? Also, what is the opinion of Baylor and Texas A&M for premed/difficulty in premed courses and shot to go to a great med school (like Texas Southwest or Baylor or such)?</p>
<p>and so, I take it that top 5% and 2200 SAT would be almost a guaranteed acceptance? Pls. let me know if i’m wrong, I have cool ECs, but I just wanna talk stat-wise, so I can know for sure, I don’t want to use subjective qualities to talk about admissions for UT (at top 10 schools those matter so much more)</p>
<p>The giant class sizes will most likely NOT diminish your chances of receiving an A in pre-med courses. A lot of them are curved. This could be an advantage to getting an A, especially if you are a good student. Plenty of students go into UT (as with may schools) with the intention of Pre-Med, but a large percentage do not continue on the track, after taking a few introductory science courses, and deciding it is not for them. UT advising is notoriously bad, all advisors do is check over your course listings and make sure you on track to graduate. You will NOT have your hand held. You WILL have to navigate the medical school admissions process most by yourself. </p>
<p>Top 5% and 2200 SAT’s will get you in. If you don’t get in, I’ll be surprised. </p>
<p>"Did you read about how UT chooses students who are not from the top 10% of a Texas high school? It’s a holistic review using an academic index and a personal achievement index. You can’t get in on grades and test scores alone. "</p>
<p>You forgot one big index that is heavily weighted (could possibly go under personal achievement I suppose…), the athletic one. </p>
<p>6-4, 300 pounds, blazing speed, bulging muscles, All-State honors, a nose for sacking quarterbacks, and only a 900 SAT? Mack Brown sticks his head into the admissions office, smiles, winks, and the admission letter is sent out. >< </p>
<p>You can’t get in on grades and test scores alone, but you can on athletic ability alone But this is what makes UT football and basketball worth watching. Hook Em. </p>
<p>Seriously though, with a good GPA and a 1400+ M/V SAT score, it is difficult to get denied.</p>
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<li><p>For you to get financial aid you need to file a FAFSA, and in order to file a FAFSA, you need a W-2 form with your US taxes done. So if you do that, you should be okay.</p></li>
<li><p>As for scholarships, a lot are saved for actual Texas residents and even citizens at times. However, there are other scholarships you can apply for.</p></li>
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<p>thats msolo45! I will ask my parents about all the forms, taxes, and all other things regarding the process for FA. </p>
<p>@navyarf: man, that sucks about the PreMed advising. I’m so used to the small schools, good teacher interaction, helpful people and everything here in my city/high school that having no help would be pretty bad. I’m independent, but for things like med school applications i’ll need a lot of help, and with course planning and such</p>
<p>And yea lol I laughed at your Mack Brown example. I play very competitive baseball here in Canada, and I am in one of the best league’s, but NO WAY will I be able to be on UT baseball. They are so good lol. They have so many prospects and such, that I don’t have a shot. But, I understand ur point, a lot of admissions are to recruited athletes, on top of the 10% rule.</p>
<p>BTW, I say on ratemyprofs (went on it to see what it’s all about) and say that Mack Brown is a teacher?! ***, is this true? Does he teach phys. ed?</p>
<p>yea, I almost positive that it said you need to attend a Texas high school, but idk, maybe I am wrong. </p>
<p>And I read that Texas is one of the universities with the MOST premeds and it is also one of the hardest to get a high GPA at. Is this true? And why would so many premeds wanna go to UT if the advising is notoriously bad?</p>
But this is what makes UT football and basketball worth watching. Hook Em. </p>