Canadian Schools

<p>Queens has the highest entering GPA of any university in Canada. If it's not reputable, then I don't know what is.</p>

<p>bump
actually- now, according to Macleans, it's McGill for the second year in a row.</p>

<p>hey.. could someone tell me what is the reputation of u of t like on an international standard? from the posts ive read, it seems to be pretty big within canada itself..</p>

<p>uft's repo is pretty good in canada.. its just so big that its impossible not to have heard about it..</p>

<p>rotman is amazing..</p>

<p>according to this: <a href="http://ed.sjtu.edu.cn/rank/2004/top500(1-100).htm%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://ed.sjtu.edu.cn/rank/2004/top500(1-100).htm&lt;/a>
it's the first in canada... take this ranking for what it's worth</p>

<p>since when do canadians hate americans? i always thought they seemed so nice and friendly.</p>

<p>pouf - there is a general sense of animosity found anywhere outside of the US concerning the US</p>

<p>Canadians are obviously less antiAmerican than Syrians but its still there.</p>

<p>All of the Canadian schools are good but be aware of grade deflation, especially at UofT</p>

<p>The median GPA at UofT is 2.22 so take that in mind if you want to go to grad school.</p>

<p>sorry, but i'm an international and i'm rather confused about this. what is grade deflation and how does it affect entry to grad sch?</p>

<p>It is basically grading on a curve. There is a predetermined avg for the class which professors must usually keep within a range. For example, University of Toronto in some programs has to keep an avg between 64-67%, otherwise the prof has to write a letter to the dean explaining why the class is above or below this range. Needless to say, they dont like writing those letters and will try to keep that avg.</p>

<p>So lets say 10 kids get above 85% in a given UofT class. Only 2 of those kids will be able to keep that grade while the rest will have to satisfy for a drastically lower mark, probably in the 70s.</p>

<p>Canada is known for grade deflation compared to the American rampant grade inflation. UofT, however, is the worst about grade deflation. From what I know, Western and McMaster grade pretty fairly.</p>

<p>All of this information has to do with your program though. McMaster probably has serious grade deflation in health sciences and Western in business. Generally, the more competitive the program, the more grade deflation.</p>

<p>And this will obviously give you a sub-standard GPA going into grad school. Grad schools will take kids with better grades that came from inferior schools because their grades were deflated.</p>

<p>oh dear.. would this also be the case for arts and social science courses? i had the impression that those were less competitive than say the business or meed courses..</p>

<p>Deflation is still there for arts and social sciences but its not as bad as the tougher courses.</p>

<p>Last year's highest gpa in political science at UofT (alot of kids) was a 3.6</p>

<p>That is BRUTAL</p>

<p>Seeing how you need AT LEAST a 3.6 for admission into the top-20 law schools in the US, that is not encouraging.</p>

<p>It's not really "deflation", it's actually more like holding the line steady at about where US colleges were in the mid 70s. Around that time, places like Harvard decided that all their students deserved good grades and the GPA "inflated" up to its current level where the overall average GPA there is now A-.</p>

<p>But graduate schools like Stanford's engineering use records of all the previous students from your undergraduate school, how they did at Stanford, and then compare your GPA against them to predict whether you would be successful. IOW, your GPA is competing with your own classmates and applicants from previous years for admission. A 2.8 from UofT is not directly being compared to a 3.6 from Harvard.</p>

<p>I don't know about law schools. Are there minimum GPA cut offs? I thought LSAT score was most important.</p>

<p>i see.. you seem to have the inside scoop on all this. i don't suppose you would know if this applies to the sociology or east-asian or asia-pacific programs?</p>

<p>No, not any inside scoops. I'd say go to the school that you feel will give you the


best education

for what your budget can afford, some close faculty interaction, and where you will grow as an individual into an independent adult. If you truly "know what you're supposed to know" when you come out, you'll do fine w/ grad school admissions. If you get to know some faculty, they will give you solid advice and help you succeed. Be sure to discuss your grad school plans with your advisor early on. Just my opinion, no scoops. ;)</p>

<p>waterloo or illinois institute of technology for an international student who has lived in the US for 2 years?</p>

<p>I start my Engineering course in Fall 2005. I have been offered place in Mechanical Engineering at UofT and Mechatronics Engineering (Co-op) at Waterloo (with Scholarship). I want advice on where to join.Both universities have there plus points. As I am a girl student,I also need to know the pros and cons of a co-op program as it will entail frequent change of location. I will appreciate prompt replies as I have to take decision within next few
weeks.</p>