Candidate Fitness Assessment---Help!

<p>I have a question. When my younger son was admitted to USAFA, I am pretty sure they published the minimums of the Candidate Fitness Assessment. Maybe I just don’t know where to look, but I can’t seem to find them now anywhere. I can find the maximums, but not the minimums.</p>

<p>I apologize if this topic has already been covered. Please reply if you know at least some approximate minimums!</p>

<p>Thanks…
justanothermother</p>

<p>I believe they aren't posting those anymore so people won't shoot for the minimums. But to give you a good idea of the minimums:
6 pull ups
11.5 ish second shuttle
35 push ups
55ish sit ups
mile never had a known minimum, but average was 7:00.</p>

<p>Academy website says the following:</p>

<p>The examination consists of the following six events: </p>

<p>Basketball Throw
Cadence Pull-Ups or Flexed Arm Hang (women’s option)
Shuttle Run
Modified Sit-Ups
Push-Ups
One-Mile Run</p>

<p>basketball min is probably around 50.</p>

<p>I thought it was 59ft, but I cannot really remember.</p>

<p>Remember, minimums get 25points, but you need over 200 (or was it 250?) to pass. Although, a low score can be overcome in some instances.</p>

<p>Unless things have changed since last year, my son's admissions counselor explained that there were no minimums. A really bad performance might result in a request to take it over. Of course, now a new general is running things and things could be different. There are definitely some low performers at the academy right now, and they are having to do a lot of conditioning to pass the PFT. Thankfully, the basketball throw is not a part of the PFT once you get into the academy.</p>

<p>i thought there were no minimum, because if there were, everyone wouldn't try as hard after passing the required minimum.</p>

<p>so they just tell you there's no minimum and do your best.</p>

<p>There are minumums, but getting the minimum on every event will still get a failing score. This is true for the PFT at the Academy and I'm pretty sure the CFA too.</p>

<p>As it has been for some time, it seems like solid gold info about the CFA is difficult or impossible to come by. USAFA's own catalog is even kind of ambiguous. West Point and Naval Academy say most definitely that if you flunk the CFA you will not be admitted. USAFA's kind of says that, but then it kind of doesn't. Does anyone out there know of anyone who was definitely rejected because of a low CFA score? One thing is for sure, if you do poorly on the CFA, you will do even poorer on the PFT at the academy, and that will have consequences you would rather not have to deal with. On the other hand, a great SAT score is probably 5 to 10 times more valuable than a great CFA score.</p>

<p>Don't remind me!
Be able to do a PFT (CFA style test without those nice rest periods) by the time you get to the academy! I didn't take people's advice and got used to doing stuff with rest intervals. (Which is fine, but makes the PFT seem harder.)</p>

<p>You need to be in the best shape you can possibly be in, not just in good shape to do the PFT/AFT. If you go for hte minimum, you will struggle during basic and on the PFT, AFT, and training sessions.</p>

<p>Even though I can pass the PFT with a very high score, I still run or lift every day even at the Academy. Make sure you guys dont slack off before you come here...I did my last month of freedom and my fitness suffered...it's not a good idea.</p>

<p>Definitely prepare AS MUCH AS HUMANLY POSSIBLE. This altitude is killer, even for people who are in good shape Before I got here, I did stuff everyday to the point where I thought I was ready, and then the second day we were here we ran the AFT. I died after about 200m, and I had been running 8-10 miles a day previously at 6-6:30 mile pace. I'm on the XC team here and it still tires me to walk up hills sometimes. Just be as prepared as possible to deal with the altitude, being tired all the time, and not getting too much recovery from the "beat sessions" (just intense PT, pretty much) that you will have during basic. </p>

<p>As far as minimums go, they don't really advertise them, only the averages. Just try to be able to do at least the averages on everything, if entirely possible</p>

<p>CFA averages from the 2006-2007 catalog</p>

<pre><code> men women
</code></pre>

<p>Basketball throw 70' 41'
Pull-ups 8 2
Shuttle 10 sec. 11.5
Sit-up 65 65
Push-up 50 30
One mile run 7.00 minutes 8.00 minutes</p>

<p>Get really good at push-ups and sit-ups (and running). If you can Max push-ups and sit-ups, you already have 200 of 500 possible on the PFT (passing is 250). Also, get used to running medium distances, the AFT is 1.5mi.</p>

<p>The main idea, is that comming to the Academy in good condition will make Basic and the Academic year much easier.</p>

<p>The reason you can't find the minimums is because the examination has changed significantly. Yes, they did post the mininums for the PAE, (Physical Aptitude Examination), while that was used. However, once the CFA replaced the PAE, they refused to post any solid numbers about it to prevent people shooting for a specific target instead of going as hard as they can.</p>

<p>so no. THERE ARE NO MINIMUMS FOR THE CFA. there are for the PFT, but that is completely different and irrelevant to the applicaiton. work and do your best, but there is not an automatic disqualifier for certain low scores (although below average scores will not help you at all)</p>

<p>Actually, there are minimums (I know, because I barely got them on my CFA). Unless it's different from last year, you won't know what the mins are unless the admissions panel calls telling you that your scores are too low. Sorry, wish I could be more help! But I do know that both West Point and USAFA have minimums...</p>

<p>so, i had my cfa scheduled for next week w/ my jrotc instructor. he tells me today he's goin on vacation.. i find that very irresponsible... so, now im searchin for someone qualified enough to do it. any ideas? im lookin it up, don't they have to have a PE degree or somethin?</p>

<p>Right on the top of the form it says,
"Your examiner should be your high school PE teacher or coach. If you are home-schooled you may use your PE teacher(if not your parent), your ROTC instructor(if applicable), or your USAF admissions liaison officer."</p>

<p>Hopefully that helps. I had my golf coach do it since all the gym teachers were busy with coaching other sports on the saturdays I had open. So basically it has to be your ALO, gym teacher, or sport coach.</p>