<p>I agree with you but it is not 18years like some people are making it out to be. it is 8 years of undergrad + med then 5-6 years residency so that is 13-14 years... then a fellowship with can be 1-2 eyars that is a max of 16 and I don't even think that a fellowship is required.</p>
<p>residency for CT surgeon would be a 5 year general surgery residency followed by a 2 year CT fellowship which is required. You can't sit for the board certification w/o the fellowship. I get this info from the AAMC's careers in medicine page - you have to be a med student to access it, so I can't link to it.</p>
<p>If you wanted to tack on a peds sub-subspecialization, you might need another year of fellowship. </p>
<p>If you really want to do CT surgery you're going to be 34 when you're done, assuming that you graduate in 4 years, and get into med school on your first application (both no guarantee). It may well be 18 years after HS when you'd finally be done.</p>
<p>In any case, I don't think anybody is going to be jumping for joy that it's only sixteen years, rather than eighteen.</p>
<p>the average surgeons is about 35 years old when they finish training</p>
<p>the average income for a starting surgeon is 180k - 250k depending on where in the country you are practising</p>
<p>the average salary for a surgeon in practise for 5 years is 450k to 650k</p>
<p>currently there is a shortage of jobs for cardiac surgeons - this will likely be better in the next 5 - 8 years</p>
<p>don't do cardiac surgery unless you really love it, it is a great commitment, it is challenging and not everyone can do it - in fact only the best 20% of people in general surgery can do cardiac surgery.</p>
<p>1.) I will want a cite for those numbers, as they strike me as dramatically too high (see salary.com).</p>
<p>2.) Besides, the concerning component about CT surgeons is future income - i.e. within the next several years.</p>
<p>No those numbers for CT are right, ask older CT's who are established, they might cry about not enough money but thats what they are making.</p>
<p>1.) That's not a cite.</p>
<p>Yet with the salary as you see the ones I know still complain. Funny isnt it.</p>
<p>for that particular zip code the base mean is 450k, but after bonuses etc.. it is closer to 600k.</p>
<p>and that is on the low end in the country.</p>
<p>of course if you subspecialize (i.e. do heart and lung transplants, heart failure surgery, etc...) then your income is higher.</p>
<p>with regards to future potential check this link:</p>
<p>basically, there will likely be a shortage of cardiac surgeons in the future, starting at about 5 years' time and peaking around 8 - 10 years from now. now in the interim, there may be a decrease in salary for surgeons, but it won't be dramatic (i.e. the dramatic decrease occurred in the last ten years), and when the shortage hits, then hospitals/hmos will have to provide better reimbursement if they are going to hire new surgeons.</p>
<p>I want to go to Medical School and I don't know which doctor to be. I want to be one that makes a lot of money but one that I can also enjoy. I was thinking any of these doctors:
Cardiovascular Surgeion
Endocrinologist
Rheumatologist
Dermatologist
Anesthesiologist
I would also like to know how long you would have to go to college for each of them and what the pay is for each of them. I would appreciate the help! Thanks!</p>
<p>Bluedevil mike-I'm sorry to say this but your information didn't seem to help me.</p>
<p>I'm so tempted to make a mean comment.</p>
<p>Please read the thread BDM cited again.</p>
<p>I read some of these messages and a few points need to be made. </p>
<p>First, it is a huge error to look at the way medicine is practiced today (including compensation) and believe this is how medicine will be practiced in the future. Have you spoken to a broad range of practicing physicians? They will all tell you that medicine is becoming a highly regulated field by necessity. Look at other industrialized nations and see how medicine is practiced and you may have a vision of the future. I suggest that you go into medicine with your eyes wide open. </p>
<p>Second, salary reporting should rely on a reliable source. Don't confuse gross income with net income. The most quoted source for physician income is Medical Economics. The explosion in licensure for Nurse Practitioners (including Nurse Anesthesia) and Physicians Assistants will also serve to devalue medical services in the future. There are established physicians who have seen their income fall dramatically. My point is that the compensation for physicians, even 5 years from now, may be much lower than its current levels. Medicare and managed care have been lowering fees every year while the cost of the overhead of physicians continues to rise. </p>
<p>I believe that some of you are suffering from delusions. Medicine will undergo drastic changes in the near future. Global economics forces the US to compete on a global scale. The current cost of healthcare alone precludes us from being competitive in many ways. </p>
<p>I suggest that you pursue medicine because it is a field that you love.</p>