<p>How is CAS economics major compared to Wharton business major in relation to job recruitments.
I'd die to go to wharton, but applying to wharton is I tihnk a little bit too risky considering their acceptence rates. That said even if you have pretty decent scores,ECs and so forth, your chances may still be very slim because everyone wants wharton and the applicant pool is VERY strong.
I dont know. For me right now, its Penn or die. I need some in-depth adivce</p>
<p>Wharton is better than CAS Econ in terms of recruitment, this is obvious.</p>
<p>As a current Penn Freshman, I've heard much talk about the particular question you are asking. From what I've gathered, it the job hunting process is considerably easier coming out of Wharton, but an Econ degree from CAS is no less respected than a Wharton BSE. You simply have to market yourself more I suppose.</p>
<p>Also, remember that regardless of which school you apply to at Penn, you can do an internal transfer to another school later if the current school you are in isn't what you thought it was. IMO, CAS gives you the most options. That's just my two cents</p>
<p>Thanks alot exactly what I needed to hear.
One more question - How hard is it to do an internal transfer CAS to wharton</p>
<p>Its difficult, but not impossible. I'm actually considering it...</p>
<p>It's solely based on GPA. The minimum to apply is a 3.4, but you really need above a 3.8 to get in. They reserve a certain number of spaces in the class for transfers/dual degree students (the latter of which I am considering), and they basically give out spots starting with 4.0 kids and move down until they run out of spaces.</p>
<p>So...it's hard, but not impossible.</p>
<p>You need to have a 3.9 or greater GPA to internal transfer, because everyone else will have the 4.0</p>
<p>Normally, I'd explain how CAS's econ is different from Wharton's curriculum, but everyone I know majoring in Econ here wish they would have done Wharton instead. The simple fact is that the best economists are Wharton faculty - in the Finance dept, and in other (Management, OPIM, Stat, Marketing...). If you're out to find a job, wharton's better. Even if you're interested in Economics research, Wharton's better.</p>
<p>Apply to your first choice. Don't think of CAS at Penn as a backup for Wharton - if you want to go to Wharton, apply to Wharton, and find another university as your second choice. Your best chance of getting in is when you apply from high school - trying to backdoor just isn't worth it. Save yourself the trouble, apply directly to Wharton and live with the decision.</p>
<p>The worst people I know at Penn are those who try to backdoor into Wharton - they're the ones who are the grade-grubbers, the backstabbers, the tools who register for Wharton classes without being in them, and the ones who lie on their resumes.</p>
<p>Woah there buddy...that's kind of a big indictment...</p>
<p>btw you're kind of answering phillyboy's 1st question in my "freshmen willing to answer questions" post...</p>
<p>It's a simple reality that Penn as a whole needs to deal with: the best economists aren't in the economics department, and that translates into the undergraduate experience.</p>
<p>The reason that Wharton gets hyped up so much is because there are all these tools running around trying to transfer in. If college students were proud of their education and experience, and weren't always chasing the next rung on the ladder, it would be a much happier and friendlier place. </p>
<p>Applying to CAS with the goal of transferring to Wharton later is a setup for failure and frustration. Want to do Wharton? Just apply to it from the beginning.</p>
<p>I don't think bjoonsup was planning to pursue that avenue...I was simply stating that the option to transfer exists, albeit it is a difficult path.</p>
<p>I would advise too that if you want wharton, apply wharton. I simply give props to CAS because A) I'm in it and B) it gives many more options outside of "business"</p>
<p>mattwonder Thanks for your advice it really helps.</p>
<p>I understand how I should be applying to the schools/majors Im interested in instead of looking for a substitude. Howevery I really dont think I could handle the frustrations after being rejected from my dream college. It literally drives me nuts when I think about Wharton's acceptence rates - roughly one out of ten applicants get in. I still have one more year to go and I'll probably come up with a solution.</p>
<p>By the way, I know a couple of CAS students as well as a Huntsman student on AIM, and they ALL told me that internal transfer really isn't that hard if you do it right and I should consider this an option (I didn't even know about it untill the Huntsman guy told me this). What is your opinion on that?</p>
<p>The College really isn't that much easier to get into. ~16% vs. ~10%.</p>
<p>i agree with mattwonder to some extent. I think that if you're in econ and want to do prebusiness, you'll want to be in wharton instead. if you are interested in macroeconomics or theoretical economics...the college is a great option. penn's econ department is rated quite well, and granted a lot of good economists are either in wharton or maybe cross listed, the econ classes are still good</p>
<p>though some of my close friends are wharton transfers, i feel that their competitiveness in classroom is pretty annoying. matt makes a good point that wharton guess hyped up more because there is a demand of ppl trying to transfer. honestly, everyone here is smart...and there's no point of judging one school as better than the other.</p>
<p>if you want to come to penn, that's great. but if you want to come to penn because of wharton, you are probably more interested in a business education, and should that treat other business schools as your other options, not the college</p>
<p>yeah statistically there is not that much difference. But they are just bold numbers with no details.
If you read the official threads, its quite easy to sense that Wharton applicants are more stronger and competitive. In my opinion Wharton is roughly twice as hard as getting accepted to the college (which I certainly dont mind attending)</p>
<p>Well I actually go here, and if you did you might adjust that opinion.</p>
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<p>This is actually very true. I've noticed a very strong (although not perfect) between douchbagginess and trying to transfer into Wharton.</p>
<p>And the only one I know who transferred into Wharton who wasn't a complete tool... transferred right back out.</p>
<p>Moreover given how many of my CAS econ friends are working for top-tier firms, I'd definitely question the advantage of wharton over CAS in the recruitment process.</p>
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yeah statistically there is not that much difference. But they are just bold numbers with no details.
If you read the official threads, its quite easy to sense that Wharton applicants are more stronger and competitive. In my opinion Wharton is roughly twice as hard as getting accepted to the college (which I certainly dont mind attending
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<p>Well, in introductory statistics they will teach you this whole thing called 'sample bias'...along with 'statistically significant sample size'</p>
<p>Consider these before making half-baked claims that Wharton applicants are "more stronger" (sic)</p>
<p>Well I can kind of recall the sample space, SRS, bias and all that stuff I learnt at my sophomore year but that was not my point.
You know and I know that it is quite harder to get into Wharton compared to CAS. If you just look at the applicants' SAT scores (and i do admit scores are not everything) you'll find out most wharton acceptees are on average above 2250 in total whereas CAS it's around 2150.
By the way where in particular did you find bias in my observation?</p>
<p>sample bias - by your post count you seem new to CC. you will understand the longer you are here.</p>
<p>and my CAS SAT was 2370, what's your point?</p>
<p>The best way to realize that there is no appreciable difference in student caliber is something to which the real Penn community is privileged and you are not--empirical experience of the students themselves. I suggest you try that too.</p>
<p>With respect to job recruitment, part of it depends on what you want to do in business (banking, consulting, research, etc). The other part is that Wharton simply sounds better. However, recognize a few things: Wharton has a lot of business requirements that may limit your capacity to get a typical liberal arts education; those business requirements are much more practical and vocational than courses in the College, so think about what kind of education you want; and DO NOT (repeat: DO NOT) apply to the College if your goal is to transfer into Wharton. The College and Wharton offer very different academic experiences, so think carefully about what you want. Look over their course requirements and policies and make sure you make an informed choice.</p>