Casualty of Facebook

<p>Local HS student loses admission and scholarship due to Facebook issues...never heard of this happening, but fully support it..just had a discussion,again, with DD's ,that not only colleges,but potential employers may be checking this out</p>

<p>Is there a link for this? A little tough to react to it based on the description only. If no link, a little expansion with some facts changed to protect the people might be useful for instruction.</p>

<p>Ok, try to add some clarity without ‘outing’ school or student…</p>

<p>Student accepted for a sport in Sept of senior year in HS,with full ride…easy street,right…October of senior year,you know where you are going,full ride…student gets into a cyber conflict with some others,other? And it gets ugly and personal,the postings are there for all to see…school calls and revokes acceptance and scholarship…can’t get into details,but it was not pretty</p>

<p>I don’t buy it. Has to be more to it.</p>

<p>So this isn’t something you saw on the news, just hearsay?</p>

<p>1st hand info</p>

<p>Allright. I get it . Sounds credible. Obviously this was not a top 5 football program changing its mind…it was a top academic school with a good recruit who made some mistakes about his/her behaviour and public items.</p>

<p>One of the problems for youngsters is that they all underestimate the level of competition at the next level. Regardless of the endeavor…academic or athletic, there is always someone right behind you who could take your place if you give people a reason to prefer that person over you.</p>

<p>^^ I think the larger issue is that kids still don’t seem to get that when you post something on line, the whole world is watching. facebook’s so-called privacy settings, in particular, are a joke.</p>

<p>Back in the day, there was a saying “Don’t put something in writing if you wouldn’t want to see it on the front page of the New York Times.” Today, “in writing” includes social networking sites, IM, email, and texting. And yet, somehow, alot of kids still seem to think there’s such a thing as privacy when it comes to electronic communication.</p>

<p>OP, I take issue with the title of the thread. The student wasn’t a casualty of facebook. He did this to himself.</p>

<p>I don’t know about cyberbullying, but my kids’ school was quite clear that if they saw public evidence of drinking on Facebook, that they would come down hard on it (taking athletes off teams, etc.). They put the fear of God into the kids. I posted a picture of our family where we were raising glasses of wine at a nice fancy dinner (clearly not some drunken bash) and my kids had me take it off, even though anyone (school or employer) looking at it could see the context.</p>

<p>If this is truly a case of cyberbullying, then the kid got what he deserved. On the drinking issue, an athlete I know was advised by recruiting advisor to remove photos from a family birthday party and Thanksgiving dinner. Why? There were red Solo cups in the photos! A little extreme I think, but when so much is at stake, better safe than sorry.</p>

<p>I don’t think it is the view of these kids that they have privacy on facebook. I think it is the belief that “everybody is doing it, why would the school or employer care.” Look how many well known people have had embrassing things about them on the news. And what happens next. Why is Kim Kardashian famous - sex tape. And is she hiding from shame? Heck no she is capitalizing on it. Octomom, Kate (+8) Did Bill Clinton get booted out of office over Monica? And how old were these kids at the time? They don’t think anybody will care. Nobody has put the fear of God into them. The same kids will announce at the Thanksgiving diner table that they have to pee. Grandma is sitting right there and they aren’t 5 years old anymore. They don’t care. They are used to living in a fish bowl. They don’t see why anybody would be embarrassed to mention that they urinate. The fact that other people are eating doesn’t register with them. Nobody has put the fear of God into them about this stuff. They don’t feel they need privacy.<br>
I agree with LasMa the student wasn’t a casuality of Facebook. He did this to himself. From the fact that qdogpa agrees with yanking the scholarship it sounds to me like the big bad athlete was the bully here. And he should have known better. His parents should have told him and his school should have told him. And he should know the difference between right and wrong.</p>

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<p>Those interested in a mild thread departure (and a counter-culture foray for most on this board) might find Toby Keith’s new song amusing as well as the article from Slate. The Keith song has a link in the Slate article. This one is better. Fortunately for him, Keith’s admission application days are over and his recruiting window has passed. </p>

<p>[Toby</a> Keith - Red Solo Cup (Unedited Version) - YouTube](<a href=“http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BKZqGJONH68]Toby”>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BKZqGJONH68)</p>

<p>[Red</a> Solo Cup: How Solo’s disposable drink vessel became an American party staple. - Slate Magazine](<a href=“http://www.slate.com/articles/business/branded/2011/10/red_cups_how_solo_s_disposable_drinking_vessel_became_an_america.2.html]Red”>Red Solo Cup: How Solo’s disposable drink vessel became an American party staple.)</p>

<p>There was another thread recently on drinking, and when the “RED CUP” was identified, many felt it was non-symbolic of drinking (Hunt, Thumper?). Can’t find the thread to link it.</p>

<p>Now we know (again).</p>

<p>I always use Solo cups when we have large gatherings and almost always buy red because they are a good match for holiday decorations, Thanksgiving, Christmas, 4th of July, and also my daughter’s school colors. So, do I need to throw out my warehouse store pack of red Solo cups, lest someone assume there is something other than real Southern Sweet Tea in them when our family holiday photos appear on Facebook?</p>

<p>I will never buy a red solo cup again.</p>

<p>^^^^ ditto.</p>

<p>momfromKC good post (#11)</p>

<p>I would think that colleges have better things to do then monitor kids facebook pages.And if they don’t they should.</p>

<p>Two words: privacy settings.
Oh, let’s add two more: good judgment.
I’d say this kid’s conflict had to be pretty extreme and rather public to get noticed by a college. It’s also possible it reached a level of disciplinary attention that the hs felt obliged to notify the college. We don’t know.</p>

<p>But, what I do know is that adcoms at the school I work for are too busy to hang out checking fb for every kid whose name they know. Maybe the coach went looking. Maybe there’s more to the story.</p>

<p>I’ve tried to educate my kids about circumstances that evolve that they don’t usually think through very well.</p>

<p>Suppose you’re a recruited athlete who is at the margin academically, and you have some kind of a blemish on your behavioral record. Suppose you’re so good athletically, and have enough good recommendations, and have a strong enough coach pushing for you that the admissions office accepts you, but reluctantly. Maybe that admissions office decided to keep watch. Or maybe the coach had some “buyers remorse” and decided to do his own watching. Maybe a better recruit showed up available after you got your likely letter (or whatever it was) and all that was required was for you to provide a reason for the school to change its mind. What you put out there on the page is available to whomever, and its your choice as to what it is. </p>

<p>Neither coaches nor admissions offices want to deal with someone who shows them potential problems ahead of time. Use your common sense. Coaches and schools want kids who are goal-oriented and take the high road with regard to online conflicts, and who don’t associate with friends who will detract from school achievement and athletic achievement. Don’t hand people reasons to reject you.</p>

<p>“Don’t hand people reasons to reject you” - great way to put it dadx</p>

<p>If in fact the althete was bullying someone online then that person or the school or an interested or jeolous third party could have notified the college. What a nice way to even the playing field.</p>

<p>I have Blue Solo cups. Would that be a problem?</p>