CCers and Bullies

<p>do it. </p>

<p>OP deliver please.</p>

<p>“Just because he is a bully doesn’t mean he BS’d his way into Harvard…who says geniuses can’t be bullies?”</p>

<p>Well, I’m assuming he didn’t write his essays about his lifelong passion for making people’s lives miserable. They do care about character to some extent. It’s about the same as a college rejecting someone because they saw pictures of them doing something illegal on Facebook.</p>

<p>goodnoodle…that was probably a bad thing to say. </p>

<p>OK people, let’s think rationally. Kid A is being a bully. Kid B is wanting to exact his/her revenge. Bad idea. What good will this do? Will it even prevent him from getting into Harvard? Probably not. Like I said above, who says the kid isn’t deserving of Harvard, nowhere does it require Sainthood. Bullying is bad, I completely agree, but I don’t see ANY good that will come of this.</p>

<p>@halcyon thats the kinda thing I’m talking about. Just because he’s a bad person doesn’t mean he doesnt possess some intellect and other interests to write about.</p>

<p>At the very least it will give his jimmies a nice rustling</p>

<p>@cem you recognize that this is a bad idea and seem like relatively cool/normal person. I see a pattern</p>

<p>Bullying is horrible, and shouldn’t happen to anyone, but you’re going about it in the wrong direction. You hated this bully because he got in your way of having a normal, happy life, and put you through hell, yet you “I’m going to stop him from going to Harvard.” What you’re doing is the same thing he did to you–you’re plan is to keep him from going about his life, and putting him through the hell of losing his college acceptance. In your attempt to get justice, your plan is to be a bully as well, and doesn’t that defeat the purpose of calling him out for his actions if you’re going to mirror them?
YES, he needs to receive punishment, but not in the vengeful way you’re going about it. You have evidence of him bullying and his two-faced persona, don’t you? Take that to your counselors, parents, or principle as evidence of his actions, and let them deal with it. They can get him reprimanded or suspended, and a suspension would go on his high school record, which would be accessible to Harvard, and may gift you some justice there.
Don’t go about dealing with this bully in that you’re ‘gonna ruin his life and make him pay,’ that just makes you a bully as well. Use the film you have to deliver justice in a way that doesn’t make you a hypocrite, and still gives you the results you want.
Best wishes.</p>

<p>Thank you goodnoodle (wait, relatively…? haha) </p>

<p>I’d say that the more correct thing to say would be those that agree with the idea are ones who’ve been bullied in the past/present.</p>

<p>@halconyheather: For the majority of time in reality, that doesn’t work lol. :stuck_out_tongue:
Well, have you noticed that every place in the U.S. that has security cameras will always have a sign that says “this premise/property has security surveillance to prevent vandalism or whatever…”? That sign is there for a legal reason, it is there to warn a person that by entering that area you consent to have your face in the camera. Want your privacy? Don’t enter. The OP wants to release the video to Youtube and if the video happens to become famous and somehow get on the news, you never know if the parents will hire a lawyer to sue in revenge for their son’s damaged reputation. The bully may be shamed for a months and then it will be long gone (seriously, it will not affect him long term. Think Mitt Romney, he bullied someone when he was young but we can’t judge him now base on that because it was decades ago, he was still young at the time, and people change over time). The OP, however, will have to pay if the parents sued. The OP does not have the consent to release the boy’s face publically. I don’t know about schools in other states but in CA, we always get this slip that ask if our faces can be released on yearbook, school newspaper, etc and the parents have to sign or the student (if over 18) have to sign if they don’t want to be on them (that means that you consent it if you don’t sign). Plus the bully probably didn’t know he was being taped.</p>

<p>I know that a lot of people post videos of themselves amd their friends or others on Youtube, but look, I don’t think the bully knows it when the OP taped him and this video is going to damage his reputation. There can be a lot of legal implications that follows, more if the bully was still considered a minor at the time of recording.</p>

<p>“nowhere does it require Sainthood”</p>

<p>But it could. That’s how damned amazing the applicant pool is. Why should they accept someone like him when they could most likely get someone with the same stats and a good character as well? I don’t know. Maybe I’m too idealistic.
For the record, I’m not thrilled with this revenge idea, as I said before. No one really knows the OP’s story - it could be heavily exaggerated for all we know. The bullying could have gone both ways. There are a million sides to every story.
But colleges have indicated that they care, at least a little, about what kind of values their applicants have, and that they’re not just looking for raw intelligence.</p>

<p>I’ve never been bullied, although I seem like I’d be a good target. People just aren’t ambitious enough at my school, I guess.</p>

<p>Or perhaps the people who agree are sick of alpha males getting whatever they desire. Really.
What good are book smarts if you’re socially inept? Are you praising this type of intelligence over EQ? You kinda need both to operate well in society.
And I’m not a geek. Don’t even.</p>

<p>I think you should do it. If Harvard rescinds their offer of admissions, it won’t ruin his life, as everyone here has said… But his next 4 years might stink, which is fair because he made your high school experience stink. Plus, it’ll show his family and everyone who was proud of him what he’s really like… I say go for it. Harvard might not care, though. </p>

<p>On another note, so long as the video’s taken in a public place where there’s no reasonable expectation of privacy (like one’s home) and you don’t profit from it, you should be fine, legally.</p>

<p>An addendum: I’m not a geek and I like this idea.</p>

<p>I completely agree with Claire. Sorry to everyone who says it’s as simple as calmly talking it out, but from personal experience, the OP’s situation stings like a female dog, and the bully’s acceptance to H is like sprinkling salt in the OP’s wounds. It’s not gonna work out by a simple conversation.</p>

<p>If I were you, I’d show that video to the mother or whoever you’re looking for assistance, but not the whole world. This way, you have a greater chance of convincing anyone about this terrible yet lucky person because you’ve got evidence.</p>

<p>@cem i disagree with that. I was bullied (verbally) through all of 8th grade. I talked my way out of it, got on civil terms with all of them, and was golden by the start of freshman of year. I still stand by this being a bad idea. But really I’m not the best person for advice on this because the moment the bullying turned physical, I would’ve punched the guy in the face.</p>

<p>If the OP hasn’t even talked to someone about the problems s/he’s going through, then I’d say it’s going to the extreme. I say the OP should at least talk to guidance counselor or principal first.</p>

<p>@goodnoodle, I’ve been bullied before too (verbally too) in 6th grade and one incident in 7th grade, but I just ignored/told them to shut up or there’d be trouble and I was fine/on ok terms with now (the one kid I haven’t even seen since 6th grade), I mean more along the lines of people who were bullied and who are still being bullied.</p>

<p>I don’t think you would be fine, legally. School don’t release their security tape on Youtube. That’s what makes the difference.</p>

<p>It seems that many of you don’t have a realistic impression of what exactly bullying victims go through.
Perhaps you have never been bullied, or you were lucky enough to have a relatively mild
experience.
Bullying is not so easy to deal with as you seem to believe. Imagine attempting to accuse the star student in your school, the very paragon of perfection, of bullying you.
Who would believe you?
Certainly not the teachers, who have nothing but stellar grades and perfect behavior to speak of. Certainly not the other students, the majority of which have likely never seen anything beyond that perfect facade of charisma.</p>

<p>Sure, as one self righteous individual who likely hasn’t even begun to grasp what bullying victims experience tried to tell me. Yes, they may have bullied because they were in a painful situation. But I, along with many others, had abusive problems at home and other issues myself but I did not go around making peoples’ lives hell because of it.
Yet, this is the treatment that I received on top of everything else that was wrong in my life. I have no sympathy for them, and I am highly cynical of anyone who tries to justify their behavior.</p>

<p>This video plan should really be a last resort.</p>

<p>@hollowsunsets
Yes to everything.</p>

<p>“Bullying is not so easy to deal with as you seem to believe. Imagine attempting to accuse the star student in your school, the very paragon of perfection, of bullying you.”</p>

<p>This. </p>

<p>“What good are book smarts if you’re socially inept?”</p>

<p>Unfortunately, many very nasty people can be both intelligent and socially successful. Think psychopaths.</p>