CCers and Bullies

<p>hollowsunsets nails it. My opinion is still to reveal the video to the mother/counselor and no one else.</p>

<p>@HollowSunsets…I’m not trying to justify, just saying this is a bad idea. I have been bullied a couple of times so I know what it’s like. But I stand by that it’s a bad idea. Since when have two wrongs made a right? The OP should be the better person.</p>

<p>@sunsets my experience was not mild. I was bullied like everyday for racial reasons by multiple people. I think it definitely changed me. I went from being this social extrovert to this awkward introvert. I’m back to myself at this point, but for the first 2 months of freshman year I was so jumpy and nervous. In fact I think I’m better than before (not that I’m saying people should be bullied.)</p>

<p>And it is so very horrid.
Thank god I’ve never crossed paths with one.</p>

<p>I just read juvenis post and agree 100%. Show it to a counselor, that’s all you need. There’s a difference between justice and revenge.</p>

<p>Perhaps just show it to the counselor/principal first. When dealing with school admin, you’re going to need proof rather than hearsay.</p>

<p>Ugh. And we all know how effective school admin are. <em>eye roll</em></p>

<p>I have been bullied before. I didn’t tell my parents because one doesn’t speak English and the other is on the other side of the Pacific Ocean. I didn’t tell authority either since for some reason it’s hard and sometimes it backfires. I couldn’t stand up for myself either, my English sucked at that time. It was my third year in the US. It wasn’t physical but it was terrible. I sucked it up and tried to stay with friends all the time (which was very difficult since I didn’t have many friends with my English problem) and I tried to avoid the bullies as much as I could. We get different classes every year and one year later when we finally met again, the bullies apologized and revealed that they were jealous. I too once wanted to revenge and hated them with a fiery passion, but I forgave them later as I realized that only through forgiveness do you begin to feel better, to heal, not through hatred. (this sounded so fake and corny but oh well it a true experience).</p>

<p>Your plan of revenge will make you feel good initially, but you may regret it later.</p>

<p>Nope. I don’t like this idea at all. I know how hard bullying can be, and I very much sympathize. The situation is unfair, and it feels terrible when one has to watch his tormentor excel. However, this video sounds really mean spirited, and vengeful. There are other ways of dealing with pain besides causing more. The whole be the bigger person thing, turn the other cheek is such a cliche, but I think it’s the most ethical way to approach the problem. You can report his actions, and try other things to end the process.Don’t be vindictive.</p>

<p>Agree with HollowSunsets completely. People just don’t understand.</p>

<p>Friend of mine committed suicide only last year from severe torment. I nearly did myself. Teachers didn’t do a thing. They still don’t. Makes me so angry.
My high school is hell. Teenagers are savages. Parents are clueless. You want to know why kids are blowing away their classmates and teachers? Just spend one day in a bullying situation. You’re pushed around, called names, beat up, belittled, and the teachers and staff do NOTHING about it. Bystanders? You’re all bystanders. None of you helped. You’re all guilty. Parents? You wouldn’t believe us. You told us to grow up, suck it up, be a MAN, be a GROWN UP. </p>

<p>Don’t expect forgiveness or sympathy, bullies. You made life miserable for us. If any of us are still alive, it’s because we lived to SPITE you. We refused to let you break us, even though we went home every night with rage and frustration just below the surface.</p>

<p>Like some of the previous posters said, use the video as the proof to the counselor or principal if they don’t believe you. If they still refuse to take the appropriate action, report it to a higher authority (school board maybe). If it doesn’t work when you report it yourself and your parents can help you, get them involved, it will be easier to do a lot of things. It sucks to be a student in any situation that involve school. The adults at school don’t always listen to you even if you tell them politely and correctly.</p>

<p>This sounds like a really stupid idea. It’s likely that ruining his future is a worse form of bullying than what the bully has put you through.</p>

<p>Gah, making someone go to a different college other than Harvard isn’t ruining their future. He should suffer consequences for his bullying, though I don’t think it would be fair to him to create a major public scandal.</p>

<p>@propin
I know how you feel.</p>

<p>@Propinquity: Glad you are still alive and posting on CC. You lose to the bullies if you take your own life because of those cruel teenagers. It seems like you are stuck in one of those neighbirhood with prevalent bullying because parents don’t care. Fine with me if you don’t want to forgive the bullies but don’t do revenge as you may face consequences. You mentioned that the bystanders don’t help but perhaps you can become the bystander that do stand up because of your experience and because you understand how it feels to be bullied.</p>

<p>I was bullied by a neighborhood kid when i was like 12. i told my dad and he told me the next time he touches me to punch him in the face. so i did. he’s never talked to me since. </p>

<p>dont mess around with the passive/agressive crap. if this dude touches you, kick his ass. seriously. if hes going to harvard i doubt he’ll put up much of a fight.</p>

<p>i feel no sympathy for a bully getting his. so before anyone attacks me for this advice, get physically bullied and tell me punching him/her in the jaw isnt the best way to deal with it.</p>

<p>Most bullies end up going to Harvard/top schools. Why do you think every corrupt, greedy banker on Wall Street came out of top ten schools? They know how to benefit themselves at the expense of others.</p>

<p>And I agree with efeens, as crazy as it may be. It is easily justifiable if you are ever grilled about it, and it is definitely due justice. Plus, it can sure make you feel good.</p>

<p>@efeens…I agree. My dad (much to my mom’s annoyance) has always told my brother and me to punch a kid back so long as they physically hurt us first.</p>

<p>^ same. Something I will undoubtedly pass on to any sons I might have.</p>

<p>Now that I think about it, I feel that even if OP decided to submit the video, I doubt anyone would take it seriously.
This is a top student, clearly loved and adored. Even with video evidence, he’ll probably have the sympathy of the majority of the staff faculty and the student body.
You, OP, will likely be branded as a bully yourself.
There are more ways out for the top student than there are for the victim, I can assure you
and if he’s smart enough to get into Harvard and clever or charismatic enough to be able to so thoroughly torment you and still maintain the favor of the majority of the school without anyone giving a care, well, I’d be surprised if he couldn’t find some way out of even this situation.</p>

<p>^^my mom got mad when I lost a fight in 7th grade lol. I was skinny in late 7th grade, like 5’8 and 130somethin. This guy was like 5’9 and 200. Guy was insane…literally…he had actual mental issues…only fight I’ve lost :(</p>