CCers and Bullies

<p>That’s absurd. Parents should be like interfering in the child interests not against the child. They should acknowledge that you’re smart enough to secretly tape this dude. I mean what is fighting him gonna do? Escalate the situation and you come home with a bloody nose and black eye? Tell them, and ignore whatever negative things they may say about you. Tell them that they much take actions against the bully or they will be bad parents.</p>

<p>Well, tell your parents that they are stupid for not defending their kids and that they are a disgrace if they won’t help you. Look, I know that there is a generation barrier in Asian culture (you have to be respectful to elders, talk politely, blah blah blah), but it’s time to say something.</p>

<p>When we ourselves are in pain, we often assume that no one understands it, but around the world there are people who are suffering worse than us. I couldn’t speak fluent English when I was bullied let alone make friends and I was at a new school too, so I just find a few faces who look nice and stick myself into their group.</p>

<p>“Why do his thoughts on the matter actually matter?”</p>

<p>It was an attempt to argue against someone who said success is the best <em>revenge</em>. If you care about revenge, and the OP certainly seems to, then you want the bully to feel bad or humiliated.</p>

<p>“Clearly, the bully is a low-life”</p>

<p>Clearly society doesn’t think so or he wouldn’t have gotten into Harvard. It’s easy to tell someone to not care about what the whole world around them believes, but it’s human nature to care, and caring about what other people think is sometimes the only way to feel that you’re not completely insane.</p>

<p>Right on friday.</p>

<p>I apologize if it seems like we are just giving you useless advice but some of us know the pain of bullying. The problem with your parents must make it even more tough. One thing my mom always reminds me when I’m having this kind of trouble at school is that you shouldn’t let people like this take away your happiness in life because at the end of the day they’re not worth it. Everyone was put on earth for some reason and if you let people like that just ruin your happiness then you’ll never figure out your true future. Even worse they can mess with your health. Remember the life ahead of you.</p>

<p>I’m sorry Armada, we’re just trying to help.</p>

<p>So why are you uploading the video on the last day of high school? I feel like that completely defeats any purpose you had. If you wanted to ruin his reputation or expose his true character, you should upload it now. On the last day of school, no one is going to care about anything. Half the school probably won’t even be there. And if people did care enough to distance themselves from the bully, it’s not like it’s even that big of a deal because he’ll be away at Harvard in a couple months and out of contact with everyone.</p>

<p>With that said, I’m still in the “don’t do it” boat. It seems really pointless. If you want revenge so badly, just kick his ass.</p>

<p>And also wouldn’t your parents know anyway if you posted a video and the bully complain about it and your parents get a phone call.</p>

<p>We don’t think you ought to do nothing. Maybe the fact that we’re not in your school witnessing this means that we don’t know the full extent, but the fact is that these answers are coming from people who do empathize and care and possibly have even been there.
If you publish it, then who knows what might happen. A few examples:
-Nothing. The most probable response. What will this mean to you, after all the work you put into it?
-I’ll be seeing you on the six o’clock news. Perhaps, but why will be a different question. Will it be as the ruination of a classmate’s bright future, as a crusader for justice in a broken society, I don’t know.
-Your school (or Harvard) will do something about it. Unlikely, because if you really do put this up on the last day of school, it’s going to be a bit late for anything that could be done.
-You’ll get hauled into court for defamation of character. Not necessarily likely, and you’d probably be acquitted, but it’s still possible.
If, as you say, you are out for Justice with a capital J, you won’t get it by this route. I urge you to think once again WHAT you want to accoplish- you haven’t been very clear. Figure out if this will really bring justice, or if it’s just a method of revenge. And nobody will judge you for that, as you have obviously had a horrifying and painful time- we’re just trying to explain why this idea isn’t going to get done what you want done if what you want is indeed justice.
I repeat the urges of others (if your school and parents aren’t options)- contact the police. Perhaps you could contact the guidance counselor, who is a mandated reporter, which means that if he/she hears that there is criminal activity going on he/she is REQUIRED BY LAW to report it.
I repeat- NOBODY on here doesn’t sympathize with you and wish that life was better for you rght now. We simply responded to the posts you put up that no, this video will probably not bring justice to your tormentor.</p>

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[<em>]You are a male. Punch him. Your family may find it macho.
[</em>]How did you develop a victimization complex in one semester?
[<em>]He will be gone in five months. Why exact your revenge the day he leaves?
[</em>]What would he do if he was rescinded? Revenge is a mutual feeling.
[li]Why are you asking this on CC?[/li][/ul] </p>

<p>If this blows out of proportion on the internet, in school, or on Facebook, it may go on your record, bar you from college, disappoint your parents even more, and result in another transfer. </p>

<p>If you want to exact some revenge, don’t mess with your futures - mess with his stuff. Toilet paper his house, key his car, but do not take the victimization complex too far. </p>

<p>I find it in bad-taste to mention it, but we have seen too many Virginia Techs for vigilante-justice to be anything but answering bullying with bullying.</p>

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Using something as harmless as “success” as a type of revenge was basically saying that the best revenge is none at all. I’m sorry it wasn’t clear.</p>

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When someone bullies someone, such information is not magically transported into the brains of every member of society… Bullies are low-lives. We can’t call someone a low-life unless we know he is a bully. Society does not know and can therefore not label him as such. </p>

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Bullies are not “the world”. Caring about what other people think is different than caring about what a low-life thinks. For example, if my best friend says something negative about me, I’ll be upset. If the kid who used to bully me freshman year says something about me, I’ll laugh in his face. The opinions of the bullies * shouldn’t * matter. The best solution is understanding that and taking the steps you can toward actually believing it. You’ll know his opinion doesn’t matter anymore when you can laugh in his face the next time he bullies you. That’s how I got through it, so I guess I don’t know much about revenge against bullies. All I know is you have to let yourself believe that you’re better than him, because you are.</p>

<p>Wait I thought we were talking about physical abuse not verbal.</p>

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Are we? The OP cited both. “I took a camera at school purposely walked to my bully so he could make fun of me and push me around.”
The verbal abuse comes first. If the verbal abuse is no longer effective, the physical abuse probably won’t follow.</p>

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you’ld be surprised. there are quite a few people who’ve had to deal with this, me included. but the best way to address this is to change yourself, not your surroundings. shrug him off. I know its easier said than done, but you’re a senior aren’t you? a few months, and you won’t have to deal with this anymore.</p>

<p>if it’s justice, why would you let go if you got into Harvard? it sounds a lot more like spite, and even if you have good reasons for spite, it’ld be better for everyone, especially you, if you let it go. it’s not an enjoyable thing to feel.</p>

<p>justice… I’m guessing you don’t believe in the concept of karma if you believe that you should deal it out. IMO, its a bit arrogant to think that any one person is entitled to deal out justice. it’s usually those people who are the least just without even knowing it.</p>

<p>in the end, if you release this vid, this kid will look bad, and you’ll look bad too. bullying to stop bullying will only lead to more bullying. he’s not going to change after this, he’ll probably get worse. it won’t make him feel bad, he’ll just see himself as the victim, and you as the bad guy. you’re giving him an excuse to do so.
OP, I was just wondering, if he only properly bullies you, won’t people figure out you made the vid?</p>

<p>Do you guys/girls think it will be better for me to just make a new email, and send my raw footage to all the faculty members. </p>

<p>I’ve calmed down, and thought about it more carefully, thanks to you guys. Since I cannot have my parents find out, and that faculty members won’t do anything.
I’m just going to show his “two faceness” to EVERY staff member at the school (I had to do something a while ago for a teacher and I got all the teachers emails). </p>

<p>My NEW video goes like this:
There was a segment on T.V. on him cause he won some award and he talked about his “love for the community and others” that is the first apart of my video. Then there is him pushing me and making fun of me telling how much of a waste I am.</p>

<p>This is the best idea I could come up with, my parents will never find out, neither will the teachers. I am going to use Tor just be safe. This isn’t pure evil revenge now. I’m just showing it to the teachers.</p>

<p>Once I send it out, he will probably deny everything. But I’m fine with that now.</p>

<p>Should I do it like this?</p>

<p>Sent from my YP-G70 using CC</p>

<p>But surely they would track the email… but what if still the teacher won’t do anything or don’t even know him and how would you manage to send it to every teachers?</p>

<p>Just show the administrators - not every teacher in the known universe, just the principal or something - the bullying footage as a report/proof of what he has done. Don’t try to reveal his…two-facedness by inserting clips of speeches and stuff. That just makes the whole issue more complicated and it’ll make you look vengeful.</p>

<p>Hmm…I still say punch him. However, this is an interesting concept and before you act, we should do some collective brainstorming. </p>

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<li>If you wish to maximize the anguish, I suggest staging the video as a pat-on-the-head award-show of sorts for your bully, during which your video will play, document his accomplishments, have him spout his “love for the community”, and then — the hacktivists Anonymous strike — and he is shown mocking and, even better, cold-clocking his victims. The audience gasp. You chuckle happily. He grins and admits to volunteering his time for the making of this comedic video.</li>
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<p>(I was not thinking of you, dfree, when I wrote that. :wink: ) </p>

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<li><p>Somehow connect the school’s intercom to a mic on your body and have the school listen in while this bully is taunting you. Speak with great innocent gusto, saying things such as, “Please just take my lunch money!” and “I just want to forgive and forget, Mr. Bully!”</p></li>
<li><p>Leave the video in his backpack, desk, etc. for him to watch, but label it “From the dean of Harvard :)”</p></li>
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<p>^all three plans sucked.</p>

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sounds like a ■■■■■ post …</p>

<p>^Ok then, don’t believe me</p>

<p>Sent from my YP-G70 using CC</p>

<p>The story with the pencil sounds somewhat exaggerated, but I don’t think it’s a ■■■■■…</p>