<p>Divy, the point of a chance thread is just that, chances. The truth is that this applicant’s chances are very, very low. Somewhere around .01%. False hope doesn’t help anyone. It’s better to focus on and be excited about realistic options (yes, that includes a few reaches).</p>
<p>I guess I just don’t agree with the strictness. I find after a 2100 one has as good a chance as any at a top school, and although the applicant doesn’t have the best GPA he will get looks. I think .01% is just very critical.</p>
<p>The below average for ivies SAT can’t make up for a low GPA and low class rank. The ECs are also subpar for Ivies. I don’t see a single thing that could get this kid admitted. When schools reject 90-95% of applicants, you have to have more than just a nice SAT, good GPA, and a few ECs.</p>
<p>According to school profiles, a 2140 is not below average, it is at the lower end of average. The applicant isn’t out in my opinion, he has a chance like any. It’s very worth it to apply in my opinion.</p>
<p>The lower end of the middle 50% is still below average. You also have to factor in kids with hooks who pull down the average. I would bet that the average unhooked, ORM applicant SAT is above 2250.</p>
<p>Apply to Cornell! Also, its peers like Penn, Duke and Dartmouth.</p>
<p>The hooked applicants do not make up 25% of the class, that why they are hooked. The normal applicant is fine, in my opinion 2100 and up. Of course get it as high as you can though.</p>
<p>Brother should a a bit lower. He has a shot at lower knotched schools such as Carnegie Mellon, and would get into UVA or UNC ch if lives in Virginia or north Carolina.</p>
<p>This page says that nearly 40% of Harvard’s class are minorities: <a href=“http://admissions.college.harvard.edu/apply/hrp/minority_recruitment/index.html[/url]”>http://admissions.college.harvard.edu/apply/hrp/minority_recruitment/index.html</a></p>
<p>Additionally, legacies make up 12-13%. </p>
<p><a href=“http://www.gocrimson.com/information/recruiting/index[/url]”>http://www.gocrimson.com/information/recruiting/index</a> This website says that 20% of students are athletes. </p>
<p>The point is that yeah, hooks make up a lot of the class. Obviously there is some overlap, but I read somewhere that about half the class has some kind of hook. If you look at these numbers, half makes sense. </p>
<p>Anyway, you are putting WAY too much emphasis on the SAT score. The SAT score isn’t the primary problem. The entire app just isn’t ivy level. </p>
<p>I agree with cortana. This kid will go to an excellent school, but probably should be focusing on top 50, not top 10, schools.</p>
<p>I guess I am looking at top 50 schools to be far too low as my brother- no special hooks or anything. Got into GW with an 1850 and a 3.4 GPA. I find that level to be safeties. That’s just from my personal experience so I suppose there’s a bias. But I just can’t see applicants this high aiming there.</p>
<p>“this level of applicant” has a 3.5 and 2140. Slightly above GWU’s 75th percentile of 1380 (M+CR, extrapolate it to 2070), making it a low match.</p>
<p>…We’re all forgetting he still has time to raise that SAT as well…</p>
<p>The GPA will be a killer, which is why he needs to raise it to at least a 2250… (2300+ would be ideal)</p>
<p>@Divy1234 90+% of applicants are rejected from each of those schools; it’s not harsh to say he will probably get rejected, especially since his stats are below average…</p>
<p>Lesley, I agree that raising the SAT is a good possibility. </p>
<p>But the SAT isn’t what is concerning. It’s the combination of SAT/GPA/ECs. A higher SAT couldn’t make up for the rest.</p>
<p>^ We agreed that his rank is the main problem and not his sat score. Even if the brother has a 2400, he would stand a better chance and maybe get a waitlist but ultimately, I still don’t think he would get any acceptances out of the desired schools with his current rank and average ECs.</p>
<p>OP’s brother has no chance of getting into MIT or Caltech with a 3.5 UW GPA unless his school says that comes with a top 10 (not top 10%)ranking. Princeton review says the average score for MIT last year was 2280 and 2240 or 2260 for Caltech.</p>
<p>As an Indian American male the chances are almost non-existent at Harvard or Stanford. All the kids I know who have gotten in have perfect or near perfect stats which is pretty much the starting point for an Asian as an ORM.</p>
<p>OP, is there anyway your brother can raise his class rank to the top 5%?</p>
<p>^ No chance of that at this point. Class ranking don’t change that much as high school progresses.</p>