<p>Weighted GPA including 9th 4.0\
UC GPA 3.7</p>
<p>SAT II 800 MATHII 710 BIO</p>
<p>SAT: 1320/1600
WRiting 600<<<I will get 750+</p>
<p>Good EC's
Good REcs
Good ESSAY</p>
<p>7 APS 6IB</p>
<p>4 4 4 4 4 4 3 AP</p>
<p>5 5 ? ? ? ? IB</p>
<p>FYI i got 12 B's and I C
Replaced 1 C and 1 B with A A
so.....11 B's 29 A's<<<ACADEMIC</p>
<p>35%, unless you have some amazing hook.</p>
<p>just out of curiosity, foil_, how the HELL do you come up with such specific approximations?</p>
<p>i mean, 35%? typically, don't you say something along the lines of... safety, 50/50, reach, etc.?</p>
<p>i don't even think admissions would be able to come up with such "accurate" numbers.</p>
<p>How do I come up with it? I think of a low number, as to not get someones hopes up. 35% is low. Most people say "oh yeah definitely" or "ure a sure thing", and that person thinks they're in. But they have absolutely no idea if that guy is going to get in, so they are pulling that chance out of their ass just like I pull 35% out of my ass. Basically, no one has any idea, especially with just saying "Good ECs Recs Essay", no list of extracurriculars, no race, no location, nothing. Plus, 1980 = a little low, no 5s in APS, IBs are 5s, not 6s or 7s, etc... so my number is low. And isn't 35% a reach? Just different ways of saying same the thing.</p>
<p>foil's right in saying that there are no guarantees, but nothing really sticks out besides that c - they don't honor academic renewal or whatever, so that c is going to be taken into account. it's also worth mentioning that nothing looks "incredible," but everything looks "pretty good" to "really good." a hook would have helped you out a lot.</p>
<p>i'd say 50/50?</p>
<p>I'd venture out to say 67.4% (how's that for arbitrary?). His SAT reasoning is just below what it should be, but his SAT IIs are great. But more importantly he has a challenging curriculum (IB/AP - come on! Of course, if he's full diploma, that's all the better). All the rest of the provided stats seem to be at or just slightly below that of the typical admitted student profile.</p>
<p>i never said usc was a safety for him. hell, i fully agree, it's going to be a slight reach probably. "oh yeah definately" and "ure a sure thing" aren't the only phrases one can answer with... something along the lines of, "it's probably going to be a reach for you" would suffice too. it's just slightly disturbing and a little derogatory to assign a percent chance to a person when you really don't know all the much. i mean, if an admissions officer can't come up with something like that, why would you? i'm not saying you are like this, most likely and hopefully you're not, but you're giving a slightly-less-than-modest opinion of yourself. that's just my opinion though. not that it would matter though. i mean, i personally wouldn't care what a random person online thought of me either. either way, my counselor would never even say something like that to me so i just didn't think you were in the position to make such a statement yourself.</p>
<p>maybe it's just me, but i'd just find it a slight bit insulting if someone did that too me. it's like you've calculated everything about me in your head. a phrase of approximation would be much more appropriate.</p>
<p>however, seeing as he did this of his own accord, maybe it wouldn't be an insult to him. i, personally, just find it a bit off.</p>
<p>anyways Jkwon, the only thing that's really hurting you is your sat score. probably.</p>
<p>actually, long story short, i just thought it was mean :(.</p>
<p>LOL</p>
<p>Did you miss this?</p>
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so they are pulling that chance out of their ass just like I pull 35% out of my ass. Basically, no one has any idea
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<p>Seems to be saying the same thing as </p>
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i mean, if an admissions officer can't come up with something like that, why would you?
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<p>Already we've got one person saying it's a safety/match, one person saying it's a match, and two people saying it's a reach. Maybe if 20 more people answer and we get a tally of how many people think it's a reach, match or safety, we'll be getting somewhere. (probably not)</p>
<p>maybe that's true, but i have a problem with numbers.</p>
<p>there's a reason why counselor's don't typically say, "you have 10% chance of getting in" as opposed to "it's a reach for you."</p>
<p>when you give a number, like i said, it's like a calculation. it's as if you had such a firm grasp on the situation where you could dish out such a number. take gambling for instance. you could say, "the chance of winning is very small" or you could say "there's a 0.0145 probability of winning." however, if you don't mathematically come up with such a number, then there's no merit in the number and really, you're pulling something out of nowhere. i'm not saying whether the percent is right or wrong or whether the opinion is right or wrong, but isn't it better to give a ballpark rather than a very specific number? i mean, when you say 35%, people kind of really EXPECT 35% +/- a couple percent for error. when you say a generalization, say, reach, it gives you more room for error. god knows we need this room since all of us are pulling opinions out of our own asses.</p>
<p>actually i find it very hard to explain myself. hopefully, you can get the gist of what i'm saying.</p>
<p>i'd just be kinda ***-ed if i asked a counselor what my chances are at a certain school and she says, "um. you have a 35% chance." i would much rather hear "it's going to be slight reach."</p>
<p>this is hard to explain :( maybe i just have a problem with being labeled with a number..</p>
<p>either way, i'm not really here to bash on opinions. some people say 50/50, some say reach, some say sure thing, whatever. you can just leave it up to the person who asked this to decide what his chances are after hearing our opinions.</p>
<p>oh and schitz, i wasn't really concerned with the accuracy of the information, more like the principle of it.</p>
<p>that, and maybe i'm overly sensitive.</p>
<p>OR i could just be tired.</p>
<p>I have UNIQUE EC's which i could make into an amazing hook...but i havent gotten there ahaha.</p>
<p>Thanks for the input..</p>
<p>our school does not offer rank....im not val or sal but im in top 20 out of 600 for sure.....do they count W or UW?? Im 98th percentile W and 90th UW<<<IB.</p>
<p>postalxservice: I really didn't think giving a number would cause so much grief, but if it did, I'm sorry to you and/or Jkwon. As schitz said, the individual responses tell us nothing. I meant 35% to be taken in stride as "this poster doesn't think I will get in for sure, in fact, it seems to think I probably won't... let's see what this next poster says."</p>
<p>Jkwon: Top 20/600 (I'm assuming it's not top 20%) is very good, regardless of the difficulty of the school. USC primarily looks at the unweighted in conjunction with course load. So I revise my chance for you to (no number this time ;)): a match, and if your ECs really are very unique, a semi-safety.</p>
<p>Jkwon- I think you'll get in (but I have no expertise- I'm just one of those who likes to say positive things to people.) :)</p>
<p>I'd like to know how many people in this thread have actually GOTTEN in to USC....</p>
<p>Me! Woo-hoo! :D</p>
<p>Me three! </p>
<p>I tend to think that IB is HUGE for USC because look at my stats:</p>
<p>SAT: 2170. SAT IIs: Bio - 750. Lit - 700. Math II - 750.
GPA: 3.87-ish UW
ECs: Very basic (not much selection at my school). But the ones I'm in (no sports, little community service, mostly academic stuff), I have leadership positions in.
Hook: Live abroad; hence potential to "add to diversity."
IB curriculum. IB Spanish B SL - 7.</p>
<p>I'm still racking my brain trying to figure out why I got offered a presidential scholarship. My SATs are at the average level of the admitted student (not on par with the scholarship people!), my SAT I is low (but SAT IIs are within range), and my ECs are pretty standard. I reread my essay, and personally think it's really bad (cliche, contrived, doesn't really communicate anything about me at all that's interesting - a real snooze fest). Okay, my GPA is high, but that quality alone isn't going to get me into the school, let alone scholarship consideration. </p>
<p>I think the only real hook I had was IB. I keep hearing how colleges love IB , and I'd have to say based on what USC has offered me, that it's at least somewhat true. I mean, getting 5s isn't going to wow the adcom, but at least taking the initiative to do a dual IB/AP curriculum is very impressive. So I'd say safety/match, though obviously I'm no expert, let alone anyone else here. </p>
<p>(This is in response partly to the thread, partly to PM)</p>
<p>I don't know what race you are but USC does consider race into its admissions. One student at my school got one of the scholarships. To be honest, I don't see why she did and other better students at my school didn't get the scholarship, but she was Hispanic and they weren't.</p>
<p>"I'd like to know how many people in this thread have actually GOTTEN in to USC...."</p>
<p>what difference does it make?</p>
<p>i mean, just because you're in doesn't mean you understand the admissions process any more than those who don't :</p>
<p>i know plenty of people who get in to certain schools and have no idea why they got in. lol.</p>
<p>is IB that big of a deal?</p>
<p>my school has like 90 full ib diploma candidates and probably an additional 100 partial ib candidates. there are also some who take the ib courses but don't take the tests because uc's don't care about the ib's and take the ap tests instead.</p>
<p>i'd have to say location is a pretty big deal too. it's harder for a californian student to get in because there's so many who apply from the state. under-represented states have an advantage. actually, i'd say any state that isn't california is at an advantage...</p>