Chance me at YALE? thanks :)

Colleges and Universities A-Z Yale University
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<p>rising junior at a crappy public high school.</p>

<p>Asian (chinese) female
Pennsylvania</p>

<p>Public high school
GPA:4.0 unweighted, 5.0 weighted
Rank: 2/571
SAT (prolly gonna retake): 780 writing, 800 math, 700 reading; 2280 (**** reading)
SAT II so far: Bio-E 740 (should I retake?), Math II 800, gonna take more
Course load: all honors and APs, 14 A+'s and 2 A's.</p>

<p>ECs:
varsity swimmer, going to be 4 years and maybe captain senior year
summer swimming
science olympiad
ARML (american regions math league) (Section leader)
piano (gonna be 12 years)
student council rep (4 years)
basketball intramurals
debate team
math team
newspaper (Editor)</p>

<p>Awards:
Science Olympiad - 1st in Anatomy, 2nd in Ecology regional level
3rd in Ecology, 5th in Anatomy state level
ARML - highest achieving female, team won the national championships 2 years in a row
Swimming - most diligent swimmer award, i hold 4 team records for my summer team
Piano - lots of national and state awards and recognition</p>

<p>APs: gonna take 6 my junior year
AP Calc BC (soph year), expecting a 5</p>

<p>Community Service - hospital, piano accompaniment for chorus, teacher's aid
(going to be around 300 hours)</p>

<p>Work Experience - private swim coach, Mathcounts teacher at the community college</p>

<p>Sooooo, is Yale a possibility? I absolutely love it there!
Also, is it absolutely necessary to have a 2300+ to be considered competitive?</p>

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<p>For an Asian, yes, a 2300, or near that, is necessary to be competitive in most cases. What abbout you sticks out? What are your passions? What sets you apart from other candidates with similar academic stats? To be a competitive applicant, you’re going to need great essays. That’s the most crucial part at this point. Even with stellar essays, Yale is still a pretty high reach unless you have a hook. Did your parents go to college? Do you come from a low income background?</p>

<p>(Also, do not retake that SAT II. 740 will suffice: colleges look down on retaking those).</p>

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<p>I think so far you have a really good chance. But, being Asian really does hurt your chances. I found this on another thread: </p>

<p>"At some schools, legacy preferences have an effect on admissions comparable to other factors such as being a recruited athlete or affirmative action. One study of three selective private research universities in the United States showed the following effects (admissions disadvantage and advantage in terms of SAT points on the old 1600-point scale):</p>

<ul>
<li>Blacks: +230</li>
<li>Hispanics: +185</li>
<li>Asians: –50</li>
<li>Recruited athletes: +200</li>
<li>Legacies (children of alumni): +160</li>
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<p>Study: [Office</a> of Population Research, Princeton University](<a href=“http://opr.princeton.edu/faculty/tje...adessqptii.pdf]Office”>http://opr.princeton.edu/faculty/tje...adessqptii.pdf) "</p>

<p>So, for Yale to be a possibility you should think about getting your SAT score up to a 2350 or so.</p>

<p>:)</p>

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<p>Untrue. It is not necessary to have 2300, let alone 2350. The OP is perfectly competitive as-is. Of course, increasing her score would likewise increase her chances.</p>

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<p>Also, I think you should start to focus only on one or two of your extracurriculars. I think the admissions committee would rather see you as a passionate swimmer and piano player instead of someone who joined 1938091383098 clubs just to thicken their application. I, of course, made the mistake of joining 8 clubs my sophomore year, but by doing that I got to see what I’m really passionate about. So, now I’m just going to focus on my passions for junior and senior year.</p>

<p>Chance me back, please: <a href=“http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/what-my-chances/954953-am-i-right-track-chance-me-ill-chance-back.html[/url]”>http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/what-my-chances/954953-am-i-right-track-chance-me-ill-chance-back.html&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

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<p>At silverturtle, it’s Yale we’re talking about. Ranked third by US News and World Report ( [National</a> Universities Rankings - Best Colleges - Education - US News and World Report](<a href=“http://colleges.usnews.rankingsandreviews.com/best-colleges/national-universities-rankings]National”>http://colleges.usnews.rankingsandreviews.com/best-colleges/national-universities-rankings) ) And, as I said, and how the article also showed, being Asian really does hurt your chances. So, by getting somewhere in the 2300s her chances at Yale will be solidified much more.</p>

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<p>Yes, but what you said is factually inaccurate. Surely the majority of Asian acceptees are below your arbitrary cutoff of 2350. Moreover, the idea that increasing one’s scores increases his or her chances is not unique to Asian applicants.</p>

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<p>Thanks guys. I guess it just sucks to be Asian then. haha
Are my awards and stuff okay, or do I need more?
What should I do my junior year? I think I’m going to quit debate and basketball cuz they’re not that important to me. But should I get an internship or something? Will that help a lot?
I really want to go to Yale.</p>

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<p>let’s see here, you took the SAT as a sophomore and got over 2200, retake late junior year or really early senior year and you should definitely get above 2300, putting you in the “golden” range(ie, can still get accepted w/o and rejected w/ but makes the former more likely)</p>

<p>grades check off, you’ll probably have to work harder to keep them there next year w/ more AP’s, awards look decent, you’ll add more as you go stress math, piano and swimming through your app since thewy look to be what you’re going to focus on…</p>

<p>that said, if debate doesn’t matter to you, don’t do it, it’s time consuming, as for n internship, if you’re not actually doing much, it probably won’t make a difference</p>

<p>good luck!</p>

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<p>Thanks, ECazndb8r. That was helpful.
Would you guys say it’s a high reach or a reach?</p>

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<p>I wish I was an African American legacy that also happens to be a recruited athlete.</p>

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<p>^ Those numbers and the validity of the study are disputed. Moreover, they are outdated.</p>

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<p>Do colleges think ARML is impressive? Or do they not care about it that much?</p>