Chance me for the Naval Academy please!

Chance Me / Match Me!
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<p><strong>HEADS UP</strong> This is going to be really reeeaaalllly long!!</p>

<p>Just a bit of background info:
First-generation American, Chinese, female, live in 3rd Congressional District of KS, no military in family, largest high school in the state(~2100 students, public). On my preliminary online app, I said I did NOT plan on applying for NROTC- will that look bad? I really want the full Naval Academy experience, instead of NROTC. Due to prior commitments to teach swim lessons in June, I did not apply for Summer Seminar. I want to major in either CompSci, CompEng, or Physics. After graduation, I want train at the Nuclear Power School then be a surface warfare officer (yes, I know this is really competitive). I would also like to pursue at least a Master's degree (probs at the Naval Postgrad School and then serve more! :) ).</p>

<p>My high school has sent a person to the Naval Academy in both the high school c/o 2013 and c/o 2014. I also know 2 others from my Congressional District who are attending/will be attending USNA (one graduated high school in 2013, another 2014). Another person from my district is at the AIr Force Academy (high school c/o 2013). I am not sure from whom they each got their nominations. However, correct me if I am wrong, I thought that each senator and representative had a quota of how many of their nominees can be attending service academies at a time? Would this lower my chances of admittance? Anyways, onto the stats!</p>

<p>These stats are current as of the end of this year (my junior year):
UW/W GPA: 4.000/4.675
Class rank: 8 of 472. Top 2%. (though the total number of students fluctuates a bit)</p>

<p>ACT: Oct. 2013: 31C. 34W. 30M. 28R. 31S. 10 essay.
April 2014: 33C. 32W :(. 32M. 33R. 35S. 9essay.
Superscore: 34C.</p>

<p>SAT I:Jan 2014: 2040: CR-600. M-720. W-720.
March 2014: 2070: CR-650. M-710. W-710.
Superscore: 2090. LOL.
SAT IIs - Not required for admission. Not-so-great scores anyways :/.</p>

<p><strong>Scroll down quite a bit if you don't want to bore through my classes for the past three years.
Basically lots of math and science. Honors & AP everything except history classes.</strong></p>

<p>Freshman year:
Choir
Pre-AP Modern World History
Pre-AP English I
Advanced Algebra II and Trigonometry
Spanish I
Honors Biology
Physical Education/Health</p>

<p>Sophomore year:
Honors Chemistry
Honors Pre-Calculus
Physics
Pre-AP english 2
Gifted program class (completed semester of computer credit and semester of humanities credit)
Spanish II
Teacher aide - 1st semester
Pre-AP World Geography - 2nd semester</p>

<p>Junior year:
AP Language (guessing 4 or 5 on exam)
AP Calculus BC (guessing 4 on exam)
AP Music Theory (tbh the teacher does not prepare us for the AP test at all)
College Physics (school does not offer any AP physics)
Spanish 4
Gifted program (Completed the last semester of computer credit, designed an engineering and technology project in conjunction with a science museum)
US history (1st semester at school, 2nd semester online)
CAD 1 - 2nd semester</p>

<p>I took Spanish 3 at the local CC the summer before junior year. Got an A.</p>

<p>My plan for 12th grade:
Multivariable-Calculus & Linear Algebra
AP Statistics
AP Biology
AP Chemistry
AP Literature
AP Spanish
Government (semester)
???elective (semester)</p>

<p>ECs:
Varsity cross country (9)
Varsity Track (9)
Debate (9-12)
Forensics (9-12)
Kansas Association of Youth (9-12)-Officer every year except 9th.
SNHS (11-12)-20 hrs volunteering/yr
NHS (11-12)-35 hrs volunteering/yr
Daycare volunteer (summer 2012-senior year)
Volunteer at swim meets (9-12) I used to be a nationally ranked swimmer, but that was when I was 12 and 13 years old.
Science Olympiad (11-12)
Math Club (11-12)
Free tutoring for K-8 kids-100ish hrs volunteering/yr (10-12)
Mock Trial (11-12)
Drummer in a local band, have toured across several midwest states (10-12)</p>

<p>I had to quit XC and track because I had lifeguard training during the fall sophomore year, and once I started tutoring, I also had to make supplementary lesson plans for the kids, which took quite a bit of time, not to mention my own school work. I am not currently in any school sports, but I do triathlons for "fun".</p>

<p>Medically qualified.
Haven't tried basketball throw yet.
Pull-ups: working on it...
Haven't tried shuttle run yet.
Sit-ups: ~80-90
Push-ups: 50+ (which is the female CFA max)
Mile: 6:30-6:40 (guessing it will be around there after 2 min of push ups. Want to get it down to 6:20ish)</p>

<p>Job experience:
City parks & rec lifeguard 30-40 hrs/week (seasonal during each summer starting in summer 2013)
Teaching year-round swim lessons 8 hrs/week in school year and 12-16 hrs/week in summer (started winter 2013)</p>

<p>I also have two internships going this summer at two different universities. The internships are for physics and computer science. Not saying the universities' names or going too in-detail for privacy's sake. 8hrs/wk and 5 hrs/wk.</p>

<p>Okay we have FINALLY reached the end. Please chance me! I'll chance you back or send you virtual homemade cookies or something! I know chances, especially for the Naval Academy, can seem quite arbitrary since there are just so many things that are factored in to admissions, but I would like to know approximately where I stand. Thank you so much if you actually read through this headache of a post! :)</p>

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<p>Can you elaborate on your leadership positions? I’m seeing a lot of “participation,” but I’d like to know your official leadership positions of any clubs, teams, etc. From what you have posted everything else looks excellent. </p>

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<p>@MidwesternHeart‌ For Ks association of youth, there are no vp/prez/secretary titles, simply “officer”. I created a week-long event three times per year where we show appreciation for the crossing guards around my district’s elementary and jr high schools. I also organize events around thanksgiving, christmas, valentine’s day, etc when we go to a nursing home and just talk and make crafts with the residents.
And for tutoring, I tutor kids (ages 5, 11, and 15) for free (3 hrs a week, ~35 wks/yr), but that is completely on my own, no relation with any school organizations whatsoever. I initiated and promoted myself the entire way through my tutoring “career” if you will.
I am American Red Cross WSI certified to teach swim lessons. Not only do I teach toddlers and kids, but I also teach peers around my age and adults.
Academic clubs are not very well-funded at my school (don’t get me wrong; my school is pretty affluent- it just all goes to the major sports). Debate, forensics, SciO, math club, and mock trial all barely even have enough people for officer positions. If we did have them, practically everyone would be something. In my over 2000-student school, less than 20 students participate in each of those 5 aforementioned ECs. I helped found the my school’s first Mock Trial team my junior year.</p>

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<p>The academies are very keen on formal leadership positions on sports teams, student government, clubs, Scouting, etc. They tend to have a lot “check the blocks” type of annotation to indicate these positions. I understand the leadership aspect of what you are doing, but you will need to work hard to insure you are able to convey that on the application. Are there other “official” leadership opportunities that may be available for you your Senior year that you can get to enhance your application? Don’t discount applying for NROTC or the other 4 Service Academies, either. My DD was excited when she went to NASS last year. After having experienced it, she decided she wanted a more traditional college experience, but was still passionate about serving. She ended up withdrawing her Academy application and opting to go with the NROTC Scholarship she received. Give yourself as many options to chose from in the end. </p>

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<p>You didn’t pass the fitness.
You need to be under 6:00 for run.</p>

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<p>@TomsRiverParent‌
You are mistaken, the 6:00 minute run is for MAXIMUM score not minimum. Check the website again:
<a href=“http://www.usna.edu/Admissions/Candidate-Fitness-Assessment.php”>http://www.usna.edu/Admissions/Candidate-Fitness-Assessment.php&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

<p>6:20 to 6:40 is fine.</p>

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<p>NROTC… Maximum time!!
It doesn’t say how they calculate total points. Max points is 100.
It doesn’t say what minimum points is needed.
I don’t think 6:40 will do the trick.</p>

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<p>TomsRiverParent. Sorry, you are wrong. Really. Wrong.</p>

<p>Read it again. It is very clear. Especially if you read the entire webpage. Maximum score for all elements is what is addressed. For example, 100 crunches will not get more points than 95; and female push ups maxs at 50, and is not a minimum. The entire chart is based on maximum score, which is precisely what it states.</p>

<p>Also note that the time given for males is 5:20 which would not make sense as a maximum time, given that Olympic athletes barely get under 4:00</p>

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<p>NROTC,
Tell me how they calculate points per event.
Tell me the minimum points required.
Then we can discuss what time she needs to meet. I would say, fresh, you need to be under 6:00. </p>

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<p>@NROTCgrad‌
yep, didn’t think you could tell me how points are calculated per event or what is the minimum points required.</p>

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<p>Hey, the chart says what it says. Maximum score. Note the following: “The 100-point maximum score, by event and gender, are listed in the table below.” Maximum score, is what it says. period.</p>

<p>You don’t know how points are determined either, because it does not tell us that. Don’t challenge me on something you don’t know either. Sheesh.</p>

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<p>Yep,
So don’t give advice that 6:40 is ok when it probably isn’t.
That’s the point.
What should be said is get the maximum score. So, for the 1mile run, better be able to do it under 6:00 fresh as after the 5 fitness events in 30 minutes, you will probably lose 20-30 sec.</p>

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<p>Okay, if I don’t know that 6:40 is okay, then you don’t know that it “probably isn’t.” So, you can stop giving advice on this issue too. :smiley: </p>

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<p>My advice is go for the maximum points!!!
So, 6:00 after the 5 events.
To get that you need to be under 6:00 fresh.
I would also bet the mile run is weighted more heavily than the other events. Another factor you didn’t consider.</p>

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<p>“I would also bet the mile run is weighted more heavily than the other events.” Still guessing are you? :)) </p>

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<p>@NROTCgrad‌ You obviously lack reading comprehension skills.
I would also “bet”.
Guess your panties are all in a bunch for having been corrected by a civilian.</p>

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<p>Sorry, but I am the one who was correct about 6:00 being maximum not minimum score. “Lack reading comprehension” hmmm…</p>

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<p>lol… typical response for someone whose panties are in a bunch.
You just gave plain WRONG advice and you are having a tough time about it.</p>

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<p>What wrong advice? I didn’t tell somebody they failed the run with a 6:20 time. Somebody else did that.</p>

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<p>@TomsRiverParent @NROTCgrad my best mile time is 5:43, but after reading through forums online and from speaking with friends who have done the CFA, one’s time can slow down quite a bit after doing everything else before the mile run. I tried to gauge with worse-case scenario on that. NROTCgrad is definitely correct in that 6:00 is the max score. I have also looked up average times from admitted candidates (both from service academy catalogs and on the forums), and it looks like 7:00 was pretty average for females.
@MidwesternHeart Thank you so much for your advice! Now that I really think about it, I think I will be applying to NROTC as well :slight_smile: Next year in debate, I will be a member of the varsity Four-Speaker team. I really wish I had more opportunities for leadership, but I will try to make the best out of the situation!</p>