Chance me for UCLA and UCSD?

Applying as OOS/International from Tennessee for CS. ACT Comp is 32, 33 superscore. 34 Math, 34 English-9Writing. School only offered 4 APs and schedule worked out to where I was able to take 2. Top 10% of class.
GPA is 3.78/4.0 and 4.6+/5.0 (I heard that UC’s don’t look at freshman year grades so my GPA would be around 3.9 if so)

Few EC’s like Treasurer of Math Club, Chess Club, National Beta Club, Kenpo Karate, Rec league basketball

200+ volunteer hours at public library

(EC’s aren’t impressive but I live in a small town and go to a medium/small sized high school where there aren’t many opportunities to be in several clubs at the same time. Also, out of my graduating class, I have more extracurricular activities than anyone else as far as I know. )

My ACT score is the 2nd highest in my graduating class (It’s the smartest class since 2012 but just not good standardized test takers I guess.)

I saw that UCLA’s average ACT is around 25-30 and UCSD is about the same if not lower.

You’ve got a good shot at both.

Good luck.

@NCalRent‌ I thought the same for UIUC and UT Austin, which have a high acceptance rate and same average test scores, and it didn’t work out well for either

Both are high matches / low reaches
UCSD would be crazy to deny you. Chance back?http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/discussion/comment/18121843#Comment_18121843

@salvadb‌ I’ve never understood what “high match” means. Care to elaborate?

@Dhruv97: UCSD’s average ACT is 30
http://admission.universityofcalifornia.edu/campuses/san-diego/freshman-profile/

UCLA’s average ACT is also 30.
http://admission.universityofcalifornia.edu/campuses/ucla/freshman-profile/index.html

UCSD: Match
UCLA: High Match
Can you afford the OOS costs??

@Gumbymom‌ Yes I can afford the costs. But what’s the difference in a high match and a match?

In this case, both are great schools for you; matches. If you got into both, UCLA should be your first choice because it is a ‘high match’ for you.

@Anish14‌ thanks. However, while they appear to be matches, I’ve lost confidence due to UIUC and UT Austin’s disappointing results

Edit: I’ve calculated my UC GPA not counting my grades from my current semester and it is 4.3.

No no no, I was just clarifying what high match and match are. Low match is a school you can get into, but you wouldn’t max your potential as much as you could at a high match school. I have no idea on your chances at schools haha

4.3 uc gpa with 2 ap’s excluding OOS honors? idk if that’s possible

@alexpham4‌ Yeah I probably calculated it wrong. I’m not sure what courses are “UC Approved” for OOS

Only 10-11th grade AP/IB classes are UC approved for the extra Honors points for OOS applicants. Here is a good calculator to help:
http://rogerhub.com/gpa-calculator-uc/

Would that not be unfair to those whose schools did not offer many AP’s? My school only offered 4 and they are only possible to take for juniors and seniors. Also, those who had to take PE (students who don’t play a school sport) and career elective courses (at least 3) had no room in their schedules to fit another AP course (which last 2 semesters each) except for 2.

@gumbymom We have AP English Comp, AP US History, AP Biology, and AP Chemistry at my school. Anyone can take AP English and History by the 11th grade because AP English requires only 2 previous English credits (1 English credit is required per year). However, AP Biology required Biology 1 and 2 to be taken first, while AP Chem required Chem 1 and Chem 2. Because of an elective I took my freshman year, I was unable to take Bio 1, so I took it sophomore year. Due to having Bio 1 in 10th grade, I could not fit Chem 1 into my schedule. So I tried to take Chem 1 junior year and could not because of my 2 AP’s (English and USH) which took up 2 periods for 2 whole semesters. I also had to continue taking another elective so I could not take Bio 2. Finally, I arrived at my Senior year when I was finally able to take Chem 1, however AP Chem requires Chem 1 and 2 beforehand so I could not take that class, same applied to AP Bio.

  1. If schools offer no or only limited amount of AP’s, this will not be held against the applicants. You are judged based on what is available at your school.
  2. If your school offerred 15 AP classes and you elected to take only 2, then you be judged accordingly.
  3. Many OOS applicants complain that their “Honors” classes are not recognized by the UC’s for the extra honors points. My son’s HS only had 2 UC approved Honors classes besides the AP’s which were Honors Pre-Calc and Honors Chemistry. Honors Bio/Honors English were not UC approved so no extra points, so that is not a huge advantage over OOS.
  4. You also have to remember, the UC’s are funded by California taxpayers, so the advantage should be given to in-state applicants including FA. If applicants do not like the limitations, then do not apply. It is as simple as that.

I think you’ve a good chance at both - high matches!

I’ve somewhat a similar profile and got denied at both UIUC and UT Austin I don’t know why.

But ECs do help at big schools since those are the points that separate you from the crowd. Best of luck.

@Digitallyshrewd‌ I’m in the same situation in with those schools (although I was wait listed and not denied from UIUC). I’m extremely worried know because UIUC has a 64(!) percent acceptance rate, which is one of the highest of any school I’ve applied too and I considered it my safety. IT Austin is high too with 40% and I thought it was a match considering the ACT average for both schools is around 27-30

Yeah, it was the same for me but my friend with a lower SAT score got in for chemical engineering at UIUC! I don’t understand.

But my counsellor says as UIUC and UT Austin are the most renowned schools in their states, their acceptance rates are clouded by uncertainty.

UCs are a better choice. Even though they’ve lower acceptance rates there are thousands more applying there and we’ve a good chance.