<p>can you guys tell me my chances?
I go to a competitive catholic school that doesn't rank, but I know I'm top 13%. My unweight GPA is 3.57 and my weighted GPA is 3.90.
My SAT scores: math: 690 reading:620 writing: 700 composite: 2010
My ACT scores: math: 28 reading: 28 writing: 30 science: 26 composite: 28
My ECs: Swim Team, Pro-Life club, SADD, Key Club, Ambassador, NHS, Mu Alpha Theta, National Spanish Honor Society
I have 100 service hours too and 1 job experience: lifeguard
I have a hand condition where I was born with only two fingers on my left hand. I wrote about this in my essay and I think my essay was pretty solid
also, my first choice major is natural sciences
and by the end of high school, i will have taken 10 ap's</p>
<p>Let me give you a little behind-the-scenes insight that is publicly available if you know where to look. UT constructs 2 indices to evaluate applications. One index is a formula that uses class rank and your ACT or SAT score. The second index has 2 parts with 3/7 weight assigned to your essays and 4/7 assigned to everything else.</p>
<p>For non-auto admits, UT creates an Academic Index (AI) and a Personal Achievement Index (PAI). The AI is an estimated freshman year GPA. </p>
<p>Using your SAT scores, your estimated class rank, and UT’s formula for expected freshman year GPA (Natural Sciences version), UT forecasts your freshman year GPA as 3.503 - 3.603. (Separate formulas exist for both ACT and SAT scores for Business, Engineering, Liberal Arts, and Natural Sciences.) Students get an extra 0.1 if their HS coursework materially exceeds the UT minimum. Since 10 AP classes likely qualifies, they’ll estimate your freshman year GPA as a 3.6. (However, if UT estimates your class rank as only 50%, your estimated GPA drops to 2.86.) The average freshman year GPA is about a 3.0. </p>
<p>NOTE: For schools that do not rank, UT constructs an estimated rank from your GPA and the reported GPA distribution of students from your school.</p>
<p>The PAI has 2 parts where each is graded on a scale of 1-6. Part1 is the average essay score (on a 1-6 scale): both essays are scored by 2 different readers and then the scores are averaged. Part 2 is everything else somehow crammed into a 1-6 grade scale: extra curricular activities, personal situation, leadership, etc. The essays get a weight a 3/7 and the other stuff a weight of 4/7. UT then plots the AI on one axis and the PAI on the other.</p>
<p>From your post, you should plot above the average on both measures provided your essays were well written and your class rank estimate is accurate.</p>
<p>Hi my D is in top 4 % of the class with SAT 2180 ( 1420 in CR+M) . she has 2-3 officers positions (president /vice-president ) in clubs and will have 14 AP courses by end of senior year with mostly 5s. She has lot of awards in debate . What are her chances of getting into BHP. As a a former professor, would you shed some light on 2 -ndices formula for BHP, please</p>
<p>If your D is top 4%, she’s an auto admit. With that SAT score & course schedule, she should get into whatever major she wants.</p>
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<p>Since UT gets thousands of applications, they have attempted to somewhat mechanize the process via a scatterplot.</p>
<p>One axis is for the classic academic factors of class rank and standardized test score. Since tons of data exists, UT is able to fit a model to predict freshman year GPA, and this GPA is a frequently used PROXY for overall academic success.</p>
<p>The second axis is for all the non-quantitative stuff. Two people read & grade the essays and these form almost half the non-quantitative grade. Outside of that, little is publicly known regarding how they ‘grade’ all the ‘other’ stuff.</p>
<p>The scatterplot approach allows the committee to filter out the outliers. Those to the upside are highly likely to get accepted. Those to the downside get denied. Those more in the middle are the harder decisions. Generally speaking, applications tend to naturally separate themselves. This semi-scientific approach greatly reduces the number of hard, borderline-type decisions for the committee.</p>
<p>Can anyone explain me, PLEASE, how you use your HSR (high school rank) in these formulas? 1 < 20. So what, somebody ranked 20 would have higher predicted GPA than somebody ranked 1? It doesn’t make any sense to me. </p>
<p>Business – ACT Model
-.630 + (HSR * .015) + (ACT M * .062) + (ACT EngComp * .031)
Business – SAT Model
-2.668 + (SAT M * .002) + (SAT W * .001) + (HSR * .032) + (SAT CR * .001)
Engineering – ACT Model
-1.661 + (ACT EngComp * .045) + (HSR * .020) + (ACT M * .060)
Engineering – SAT Model
-2.254 + (SAT W * .002) + (HSR * .023) + (SAT M * .003)
The Liberal Arts Group – ACT Model
.125 + (ACT EngComp * .046) + (ACT M * .046) + ( HSR * .007)
The Liberal Arts Group – SAT Model
-.285 + (SAT W * .002) + (SAT M * .001) + (HSR * .009) + (SAT CR * .001)
The Natural Science Group – ACT Model
-1.179 + (ACT EngComp * .052) + (ACT M * .051) + (HSR * .017)
The Natural Science Group – SAT Model
-1.617 + (SAT Math * .003) + (HSR * .020) + (SAT CR * .001) + (SAT W * .001)</p>
<p>100-HSR. If your class rank is 12% then 100-12=88. Plug 88 into the formula and you should have your estimated freshman year GPA.</p>
<p>kldat1</p>
<p>Thank you.</p>
<p>Yea they aren’t really clear on it. It is more like the ACT/SAT percentiles. You are in the 88th percentile of your class. So just plug in 88. But high schools tend to rank the other way saying you are in the top 12%. They definitely could have made it more clear.</p>
<p>I plugged in the values in the Business formulas for the SAT and ACT models and it does not make a lot of sense at all: there is a wide disparity in the predicted GPA. How would the admissions view this?
SAT - 800 R, 690 M, 690 R.
ACT - 31 M 30 EngComp
Class Rank - 22 ( == 78 for this formula).
So I get 2.7+ for the SAT model and 3.4+ for the ACT model…
Any thoughts?</p>
<p>NNM1416:</p>
<p>UT states that they will use the one test date (and test) that makes you look as good as possible. </p>
<p>Although you have a typo in your SAT line (you list R twice), it doesn’t matter since the McCombs formula weights CR and W equally. I get 3.361 for your ACT, which becomes a 3.461 if your HS curriculum gets the thumbs up from the admissions committee.</p>
<p>You were wise to take both tests. Had you simply followed ‘The Crowd’ and just taken the SAT, you would have almost no chance to get in. By taking both tests, you have given yourself a fighting chance.</p>
<p>Note that the SAT formula for McCombs puts a very large weight on class rank. Much larger than any other college at the university. Also note that the ACT formula for McCombs places a weight on HSR not too different from those in the formulas for other colleges. </p>
<p>This is a comment on the nature of the data used, the robustness (or lack thereof) of the estimation techniques used, and possibly on multi-collinearity in linear regression. </p>
<p>Ordinary Least Squares (OLS) regression - the function LINEST() in Excel – can be completely fooled by just one data point. Yes, just one outlier can transform great results into complete garbage. Odds are that those doing the work to produce the formulas in the HB 588 report were not overly concerned with the finer points of robust regression, but rather deeply concerned with producing results that met some legal standard. (Much like how physicians are often forced to practice ‘defensive’ medicine.) Remember, the HB 588 report is not something UT creates out of the goodness of their hearts. It arose from lawsuits and politicians sticking their noses into the topic. </p>
<p>My best guess is that a few outliers in the SAT data for McCombs gave us some odd results. </p>
<p>Can you try me please thank you </p>
<p>Texas Resident</p>
<p>African American first generation
Parent income 50000-60000
Act score composite 25 reading 29 science 25 math 23 English 22
3.57 UW GPA
4.2 W GPA
Any programs or activities that helped you prepare for higher education?
58/624
SAT prep classes
ACT prep Classes
16 AP/Honors classes
40 a’s and 26b’s 0c’s (hope I am not sounding cocky)
Extracurricular activities:</p>
<p>Business professions of America BPA compete in business related events. first place in regionals state and 14th place national competition 32 weeks of practice
NSHSS- National society of high school scholars-member inducted sophomore year completed 290 community service hours
National Academy of future physicians and medical scientist chosen to represent high school in the meeting in Washington for future physicians and given an award and certificate.
Presidents volunteer service program completed 135.59 service hours. Received a letter from president Obama thanking me for my work and a certificate and a medal.
National forensics league NFL- debate in different completions and speeches inducted 3rd place in novice Lincoln Douglass debate second time debating
Students Achieving volunteer excellence SAVE 290 community service hours
HOSA- volunteered in retirement home and at head start program in school
Aquatics Club
EFC=$4,272</p>
<p>Accepted where
Texas A&M university(2,000), SMU, TCU, BAYLOR (34,00) University of Iowa (60,000) Penn state University. University of Illinois at Urbana (Today) University of Florida (Today)<----- so surprised </p>
<p>Waiting on University of Texas at Austin (probably denial)</p>
<p>FormerProf:
Thanks for the detailed explanation!! I was not aware that the regression equations were created from existing data (duh, should have thought of that!). The theory about outliers makes perfect sense now.
I also tried to plug in the maximum values that could be given for the test scores and class rank hoping to get an even 4.0 and it does not even do that (in ACT Business it goes to 4.21 and SAT Business it is 3.7 or so). And if they club regression equation values from ACT scores for one student with SAT values for another student for , they are actually comparing apples and oranges. I am beginning to think this is going to be a hit or miss or luck of the draw for those on the bubble!!</p>
<p>Hello I was wondering if you guys could chance me for UT Austin as the university in general, the Mccombs school of business and maybe the honors program?
I try to do my best in everything but I just can’t manage to do well of standardize testing, here is my data:</p>
<p>I am a senior and will be graduating in June 2015. I plan to enter UT Austin (if admitted) in the Fall of 2015. My stats are:</p>
<p>GPA: 3.88 (out of 4.0) unweight
SAT: 1780 (V: 570, M:610, W:600) first time taking it. However, I had studied a lot and I am not good at standardize testing so I don’t know how much it will improve on the second time around.
ACT: 24 (Math = 26, everything else = 23)
Rank: 8 out of153, top 5.2%</p>
<p>I am a Texas student, and I am an IB Diploma student
I have taken 2 AP classes (1 freshmen year, 1 sophomore year) and 7 IB classes (junior year, 5HL, 2SL) and will continue with 5 HL IB classes in senior year.</p>
<p>Exams:
- AP Spanish Language (5)
- AP English Language (3)
- AP World History (2)
- AP U.S History (2)
- IB Spanish B (7)
- IB Biology (6)
(Max. for AP is 5 and max. for IB is 7)</p>
<p>I also plan to take 4 more AP exams and 4 more IB exams in senior year</p>
<p>Extra-curricular activities (Counting senior year)
- National Honor Society member for 2 years (Junior Vice-President in 11th and President in 12th)
- Technology Student Association member for 2 years
- For the Kids (Organization) member for 2 years
- Pan- American Student Forum member for 2 years
- Bible club member for two years (President in 12th)
- School Kick- Off Mentor for 2 years
- New Scholar Academy Mentor for 3 summers
- Teen Advisory Committee at local library member for 1 year
- The Society of Hispanic Professional Engineers Foundation member for 1 year (officer)
- The National Society of High School Scholars member for 2 years
- Phi Theta Kappa Honor Society member for 2 years</p>
<p>In total I believe I will have 100+ hrs of community service by the end of senior year.</p>
<p>I have been a dual enrollment student at my local community college (earned 24 college hour credits)
I have also been a concurrent enrollment student at a UT branch university (earned 9 college hour credits)
With my AP scores I have earned 12 hour credits
In total I have 45 college credits earned</p>
<p>I also have a part time job</p>
<p>I have about 20+ awards from club competitions and academic recognition.</p>
<p>I applied to have an internship with the judge at the county court house however, because of IB scheduling it may or may not be possible, it is still pending of announcement.</p>
<p>As of my application:
I plan to write really good essays about my goals and personal circumstances that have been obstacles; I will then ask for revision of these before I turn them in. I also plan to send about 3 or 4 very good recommendation letters.</p>
<p>I am interested in attending UT Austin and if possible to the Red Macomb’s School of Business under the Honors program.</p>
<p>Could you please chance me into admission to UT Austin, admission to the Red Macomb’s School of Business, and admission into the Honors program???</p>
<p>Feedback is greatly appreciated!!! I would like to know what to expect of my application, and if you have any tips please feel free to tell me!</p>
@FormerProf @NNM1416 - hey guys, I just saw your analysis of the rating system for academic index, and I am still confused. NNM pointed out that the maximum AI you can receive for the SAT model is a 3.7 and the maximum for the ACT model is a 4.2. Why is there such a disparity between the two models? Also, formerprof says that the ACT model places less of an emphasis on class rank on the ACT model, but I’m fairly certain this is not the case. The number you multiple HSR by is just smaller because the ACT also weighs your subscores lower and it subtracts by a smaller amount. I’m really confused about these models, and if anyone understands what is going on, please share.
@FormerProf you seem really amazing and know so much. Please please chance me?
3.453 UW gpa
African American female
top 13%
1700 SAT: 620 W 450 M 630 R
Not many extras just student council, and TOM’s club
But I have had two part time jobs about 15 hours a week
I’m graduating with about for 40 hours due to 4 AP’s and 5 dual credits
In one of my essays I write about coming to terms with my OCD/Anxiety Disorder and Depression and how it’s held me back from a lot of things
I’m applying to CNS- school of human ecology for Textiles and Apparels
Engineering – ACT Model
-1.661 + (ACT EngComp * .045) + (HSR * .020) + (ACT M * .060)
Is the EngComp score the ACT English score or the combined English and writing score which is not counted towards the composite score?
It is the combined English and Writing score. Also do not forget the 0.1 bonus if you took more than the recommended number of classes in two of Foreign language, Math and Science. The 0.1 is actually fairly significant.
Thanks for answering, but not the answer I was hoping for:-(
My son has an ACT composite score of 31 with a 33 in math but only a 23 in the combined English and writing. He only got a 6 on his essay probably because of so many misspellings (dyslexia). He got a 26 on the English section. I’m afraid that 23 may ruin his chances. Also, his school does not rank. When they guesstimate his rank would they go from top 25 to top 50 with no in between?
I wonder if he should mention that he has dyslexia? For him the only downside is the spelling which in most situations he can overcome with spellcheck. He decided to read the same book over and over in 4th grade and reads often and very well now.
@FormerProf Can you help me:
Ranking: school doesn’t offer, but probably 90th percentile
New SAT: Composite: 1490; Math: 760; CR: 730
ACT: Composite: 33; Math: 34; Science: 26; English: 36; Reading: 34; Essay: 12
For Business Please…