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<p>VADAD,
Here’s a link to the Jefferson Scholars Foundation Selection Process:
[Jefferson</a> Scholars Foundation | Selection Process](<a href=“http://www.jeffersonscholars.org/undergraduate_program/selection-process/]Jefferson”>http://www.jeffersonscholars.org/undergraduate_program/selection-process/)</p>

<p>Yeah, the Jefferson nominations are done in the Fall.</p>

<p>Echols Scholars, College Science Scholars, and College Arts Scholars are announced around the admission decision. I know that College Science Scholars can be notified over the summer though (I was).</p>

<p>I wish the best of luck to your daughter! I never thought that I would end up at UVa and I absolutely love it now that I’m here. I would not have expected it, but I’m glad it happened.</p>

<p>^ And Rodman Scholars (engineering) are also announced near the admission decision. :)</p>

<p>Well my daughter, who had a better GPA and SAT score than the person who asked this question, she got wait listed, and she doesn’t go to the best HS in the country.</p>

<p>As a matter of fact, the average SAT score at her high school was 1400 last year.</p>

<p>I am stunned. Absolutely stunned.</p>

<p>Similar GPAs can mean drastically different things depending on the school, just look at some of Dean J’s tweets from earlier in the reading season. And SATs are only one factor. UVA looks at more than just scores when determining who will be admitted.</p>

<p>I’m sure your daughter is an excellent candidate for UVA, and all is not lost, but making comments about having better scores than other applicants doesn’t help anyone in this case.</p>

<p>Good luck to her in the coming months, and I hope she gets good news from her remaining school.</p>

<p>Brishe, you miss my point.</p>

<p>Everyone was telling the poster that he was guaranteed to get in based on his stats. Obviously that was not the case. That’s all I am saying.</p>

<p>Dean J has commented that UVA reps go to TJ a lot and UVA loves TJ and that there is no biased against them. I think 83%(if I can remember from old posts) of TJ kids that applied got in.</p>

<p>"Brishe, you miss my point.</p>

<p>Everyone was telling the poster that he was guaranteed to get in based on his stats. Obviously that was not the case. That’s all I am saying."</p>

<p>Your daughter might have had a flaw in her applications or her essays/LORs might have not been the best. I would never consider UVA a safety, which from your previous posts sound like you thought it was.</p>

<p>When I looked at the stats, and I saw that Virginia was admitting greater than 40% of in state students who applied, I thought it was a safe bet for my daughter, because I knew she had the qualifications to get into that school easily.</p>

<p>There is one thing I discounted though.</p>

<p>We are poor, but we are white, so we don’t fit any underrepresented minority.</p>

<p>The more I think about it the more I think she simply didn’t get in because of money.</p>

<p>And if the admission office is admitting kids with 1900 SAT scores over kids with 2300 SAT scores because they liked the 250 word essay of the first kid better…well…I don’t get it.</p>

<p>After what happened today, I think you are right that there is no bias against TJ High School. If anything, I’m inclined to think there is bias for them now. Today has changed my whole perspective on everything.</p>

<p>VADAD1, as sorry as I am for your daughter’s waitlist, I think that it’d be better for you to get off this forum, reassess the situation and talk to your daughter about her future. </p>

<p>it is fait accompli. Accept it. Bitterness will do you no good.</p>

<p>Thank you for that unsolicited advice. Very appropriate screen name you picked for yourself there.</p>

<p>:/
Didn’t mean to offend you
sorry if i did</p>

<p>The SAT isn’t everything. I’ve met more than a handful of really smart students who just can’t score well for whatever reason. Some people are just poor testers. An SAT score is not indicative of intelligence or even ability.</p>

<p>Fermat, what you say is true, but it is important, because it is the only way to compare all applicants on a level playing field. </p>

<p>I mean…there is a reason that the SAT is the first statistic that is reported normally when giving admission requirements or admission results. It will be the same when Dean J puts up the admission results on Monday I bet.</p>

<p>VADAD1,</p>

<p>With an academic profile like that, I am sure your daughter will get in somewhere awesome probably with money. The college admissions process is mysterious to say the least. My son (NOVA also) got accepted EA at UVA and wait listed at Chicago despite having 2130 SAT (he did have great AP scores and very high GPA). Yet, some students with lower credentials at his H.S. have already heard from W&M while he has not. </p>

<p>I know though that UVa is a bitter pill to swallow because it is such a fine in state school and a bargain compared to its academic competitors. But there are other really good schools out there too that I am sure would love to have a student as talented as your daughter. </p>

<p>If you want to check out what appears to be a random selection process look at the Chicago board and see how many low SATs got accepted/wait listed and high SATs got flat out rejected. </p>

<p>Good luck!</p>

<p>Like they say. They can very quickly analyze three numbers. It’s what is contained in the application that makes the difference. Although SAT is important, it in no way gauges a students ability for success. Although the holistic approach to admissions hurts some, it is the most just way to do it. Also, VADAD she would not be denied based on money. The Admissions Offices and Financial Aid Offices aren’t linked decisionwise. In addition, the Financial Aid Program meets 100% of need.</p>

<p>I’ve meet plenty of students here who were SAT hot shots and have a 2.9-3GPA whereas I’ve meet a lot <1900 have 3.4-3.8gpas their first semester. SAT doesn’t really test anything other than how good you are at tests.</p>

<p>VADAD, My family is from Virginia and I can understand your frustration. My cousin got in with a 1950 SAT, dummied up EC’s, and a 3.7 unweighted GPA. To say the process is arbitrary is an understatement.</p>

<p>UVA needs a transparent admissions policy. They at least need some kind of baseline threshold that gets you in automatically, they way they do at the University of Texas. Now, the Texas example might be to lenient, but no child that is in the top 5% of their class and scores a 2250 or higher on the SAT should be denied entry to a state institution that receives $125 million + in funding from the state every year. </p>

<p>The way they do it now…its just not right. If it was private, I wouldn’t complain. But no public school should operate this way.</p>