<p>How was that part of the quote not relevant? You took what I saying about overall strong applicants (hence, unless something is wrong) with high SATs never getting denied and generalized it to simply high scoring applicants never getting denied. </p>
<p>Anyway, what reasons would UVA have for denying an in-state student who is taking all the hardest courses, at the top of his or her class, has decent ECs, and totally killed the SAT? I implore you for a reason, as it simply makes no sense. I’ve seen applicants with only the first two or three stated get admitted like nothing time and time again. Why is VADAD1’s daughter so special that she somehow got the boot at the college with glorious statistics? Those denied with the 2300+ on the chart could be out of state students, which is not an uncommon practice. You didn’t specify whether it was in-state specific, but either way the chart seems useless. We don’t know the other parts of that individual’s application, but we do for this applicant. All signs point to acceptance and something is just blatantly wrong here.</p>
<p>Please be careful about drawing conclusions from the unsubstantiated information posted here. There is partial and incorrect information being shared in this thread.</p>
<p>" Those denied with the 2300+ on the chart could be out of state students, which is not an uncommon practice."</p>
<p>That is absolutely true. There is a way to get it to graph only the IS students but because a student is either IS or OOS the plots get spread out along only one axis and there is no way to count the number of rejects since hundreds of data points are essentially on top of each other.</p>
<p>Dean J- I think it would help if you could give us an idea of what partial and incorrect info you are referring to. Is it that PGHS hasn’t had an admitted student in 2 years; maybe his daughter’s info (he already waived his right to privacy); or is it the scatterplot that shows you reject at least double digits with respect to kids that are over 1500 (or 2250)?</p>
<p>I do know of one piece of incorrect info - my daughter’s SAT superscore was 2340. The 2330 score was her score for one sitting.</p>
<p>Seriously Dean J, I haven’t intentionally shared any wrong info in this thread. If I have something wrong about PG High School, I am sure there are no privacy issues with that.</p>
<p>I am certain that all the information on my daughter is correct.</p>
<p>The Richmond Times Dispatch published an article in July 2011 that will help educate the folks on this thread. On the right you will see related links including a listing of the number of admitted students to UVA from various VA high schools for that year.</p>
<p>Correction: I think the UVA list from the Richmond Times Dispatch article shows the number of students Enrolling in UVA from the various VA high schools. Obviously, the number of accepted students is usually higher than that as some students reject UVA’s offer.</p>
<p>Thank you for that link. Prince George isn’t on it. A school with more than 425 graduating Seniors that sent no kids to UVA. And neither is the equally large and rural Hopewell HS.</p>
<p>So maybe none of those kids deserved it, but I think we can safely debunk the notion that it is easier to get in from these schools when they went 0 for 800+ last year.</p>
<p>So UVA received over 28K applications this year. It seems all top schools received much more applications this year. Is it because of more applicants (i.e. more HS graduate this year) or more applications by students on average?</p>
<p>Dean J has posted numerous times that there are no regional quotas. If you look at that list, though, plenty of students from Central Virginia were offered admission to UVA. I don’t believe that UVA discriminates against any particular high school. </p>
<p>VADAD1, I understand the disappointment over your child not getting in, especially when she meets the criteria. Lots of kids meet the criteria and would do well, and UVA cannot admit them all. (The large wait list is indicative of that fact; all of those students would likely do well at UVA). I doubt that arguing with admissions or asking for an explanation over why your daughter wasn’t admitted is going to change the decision. Make sure your daughter’s application stays up to date and make a back-up plan. I bet something positive will work out!</p>
<p>It seems the EA schools receive huge number of applications due to the non-binding feature.</p>
<p>Appliying to colleges is really tricky. If a family has multiple kids, the follow-up kids would really benefit from the first kid’s experience.</p>
<p>Personally, I think the holistic appraoch used by the top schools is not the best approach. I think the holistic approach is more favorable to the more out-going kids. A mixture of objective critiea (such as SAT, ACT, GPA, course-load, etc) and holistic approach should be used with more emphasis on the objective side.</p>
<p>Of course, the colleges have more control over whom they want to admit if they use holistic approach. It is also almost impossible to argue against their decisions. sometimes, the decisions seem to be so unfair.</p>
<p>If VADAD has waived his right to privacy, I think some answers should be forthcoming. His story has really resonated with students and parents alike. If his daughter’s story is true, the admissions process crossed the line from “holistic” to totally arbitrary. It would be hard for any prospective unhooked student or parent to have any faith in the process or that they would be treated fairly by it.</p>
<p>My friend was accepted last year with a 4.0W and 1310 SAT (CR,M,W). I know, I didn’t believe her at first either, but she did a lot of ECs and was active in school.</p>
<p>A 1310? Seriously? After bubbling in her name, it must have been all down hill from there. That is just pathetic.</p>
<p>oldUVAGrad, I can appreciate your sentiments, but no student who is top 5% of their class and scores a 2300+ on the SAT in state should not be admitted to UVA, unless there is a discipline problem. My daughter certainly doesn’t have that.</p>
<p>It’s not like there are a lot of them. I bet the number of kids in VA scoring 2300 is less than 1000. UVA sends out like 8,0000 acceptances or more.</p>
<p>marrob4, I think I will contact the writer of that story from a couple of years ago and see if they are interested in a follow up.</p>
<p>But more importantly I am going to campaign with our state legislature for transparency in the college admissions process. This deal where the admissions officers are just kind of playing god isn’t working for this taxpayer.</p>
<p>There is an article about admission decisions each year that has examples of students with great stats who were denied admission to top schools.</p>
<p>The allegations of us having a bias against certain schools are unfounded. </p>
<p>FWIW, I believe there were 15 applications from PGHS this year and we made six or seven offers.</p>