!!! Chance Me, Will Chance Back !!!!

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<p>Ok guys here goes:</p>

<p>Three cultures and three ethnicity s: French, American and Syrian I i guess i am a under represented! 3 passports to go with it too !)</p>

<p>Speak and write fluent everything : English , French , Arabic</p>

<p>12th grade</p>

<p>Planning to major in Finance and Economics</p>

<p>SAT: 2210</p>

<p>math: 740</p>

<p>writing: 750</p>

<p>reading:720</p>

<p>Sat 2 French: 800
Sat 2 Math 2: 750</p>

<p>I am in the British education system and am living in Kuwait so I am not doing any AP courses but have done THE equivalent called AS</p>

<p>AS Economics : A
A2 Physics : A
A2 Math : A</p>

<p>EC'S</p>

<p>-Environmental cub ( 4 years president)
-Debating club ( 3 years president)
-National Debating team of Kuwait ( competing in international debates all around the world , 3 -5 people are chosen to represent each country each year been selected three times WSDC )
-French Debating cub ( Founder and president 3 years)
-Running club ( 3 years , president)
-Model United Nations ( 2 years)
- Harvard Mun conference in dubai
- Class president
- Internship at real estate company: 100 hours
- Prefect ( some responsibility position in British education system )
- Write monthly articles for popular fitness and bodybuilding magazines published
- Won medal in school for fastest runner
- Bodybuilding hobby</p>

<p>Awards</p>

<p>-International award Gold ( Some type of international award where they send you into different countries all over the world to camp and survive <a href="http://www.intaward.org/"&gt;http://www.intaward.org/&lt;/a> )
- School award of French 9th grade
-School award of Economics 10th grade
-School award of International Understanding 11th grade
- In the top 25% in the Waterloo university international Canadian math exam (<a href="http://www.cemc.uwaterloo.ca/contests/past_contests.html"&gt;http://www.cemc.uwaterloo.ca/contests/past_contests.html&lt;/a&gt;)
- National Kuwait Engineering competition participation
- Most Valued Participant in ECA's in my school award</p>

<p>Recommendation letters:</p>

<ul>
<li><p>One from Head of Economics Department ( my teacher ) got Best scores in all tests and examinations since he knows me ( 1 st ) and he also goes with me on my running club so it should be a good letter</p></li>
<li><p>One from my 10th grade math teacher: should be great ,&lt;/p></li>
<li><p>Recommendation letter from ambassador</p></li>
</ul>

<p>Income: I am not sure what to put cause I live abroad and only pay taxes in the U.s to the property I have their.... So if it's property It is round 150,000 a year if you include earnign over seas its 600,000</p>

<p>Wharton ( University of Pensylvania ) Early Decission
Harvard
Princeton
MIT
NYU</p>

<p>Thanks</p>

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<p>Can I be you? I think you need to bring the sat score up. All of them are a low reach except for NYU and maybe Wharton since you’re applying ED.</p>

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<p>As long as you don’t need financial aid, you have a decent shot at all of them. They’re all reaches for everyone, so make sure you have a few match/safeties. Your A levels are a little disappointing, which is probably the only area you might get rejected. </p>

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<p>Hey exitsign15, I’m relatively new to CC, so could you like explain to me what reaches are and whats more likely for me to enter, low reach, mid reach or high reach? Thanks! How much would I need to raise my Sat scores up?</p>

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<p>Hey Woandering, Thanks for your feedback. I’m in the process of chancing you. I was impressed by your SAT 2 Math level 2 score, could you give me tips on how to improve my score? How could i make my a levels more appealing if I had the chance, because my school has something called year 13 so I can stay an extra year and work on that.</p>

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<p>If you have year 13 and you get denied, than take it. But your test scores aren’t weak, but since you’re applying to business schools maybe retake the math 2 or the sat and try and raise the math score. Nice ECs. Whats your strength of curriculum compared to the rest of the school? And awesome on the recs! Chance back? <a href=“http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/what-my-chances/1692015-chance-me-ill-chance-back.html#latest”>http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/what-my-chances/1692015-chance-me-ill-chance-back.html#latest&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

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<p>Bump</p>

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<p>ECs and awards are impressive! Not to mention the languages. Wish I was that good! :open_mouth: I’m not too sure how your AS scores will play in because I’m not familiar with the system.
Harvard, Princeton, and MIT are going to be reaches simply because they are very competitive and highly selective. You do have a good chance I believe tho. Wharton (UPenn) and NYU will be more of a possibility. Make sure you do have safety schools when you do apply.</p>

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<p>Bump</p>

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<p>BUMP</p>

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<p>Being realistic, everything but NYU Stern is a reach for you. You are an international with low SAT scores. Raise the scores and you will have a better chance.</p>

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<p>I am not an international student, I’m a U.S citizen. Which Sat scores are low?</p>

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<p>You have a great chance at Upenn (if you apply ED). Rest may be reaches </p>

<p>Best of Luck! Chance me back please
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<p>All of your schools are reaches except NYU simply because they are extremely selective ivy-caliber schools. However, assuming you have a solid A-range GPA, if you get you SAT score up, you should get into at least one of them. Your international background and experiences should be a big plus, and you made the right choice to ED Wharton. Good luck with apps!</p>

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<p>Thanks!</p>

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<p>@Sharecentury - regarding financial aid: colleges are going to ask for total income, not just US taxable income. If your family income is $600K, you will not qualify for any aid anywhere, although merit scholarships are still a possibility. However, none of the schools you list offer merit scholarships.</p>

<p>As far as chances go, you’re in the zone where you have a chance at all of them if you make a compelling case that they should accept you. You’re not an academic superstar but your scores and grades are good enough and your atypical background (atypical for US colleges, not for international schools) may improve your odds.</p>

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<p>Thanks for your advise! How could I transform into an academic super star? Like what can I increase?</p>

<p>And how is the college supposed to know how much my family earns? I mean my family doesn’t want to pay much for my college education. Do they expect them to pay? How would that workout? Can I just say that they earn how much they are willing to pay for my college?</p>

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<p>@Sharecentury - If you are applying to colleges this year, the only thing you could do would be to improve your SAT. You’re not going to be an academic superstar, but you are still a strong candidate.</p>

<p>Regarding aid- you and your parents will have to complete forms and include tax returns and other documentation in order to receive aid. If you lie on the forms in order to hide assets or income, it’s a federal offense, and if you receive aid that you were not eligible for, it’s fraud, which is a felony that could result in several years of jail time if caught.</p>

<p>If your family is earning $600K/year, they can afford $60K for your education. Many people don’t to want pay the full cost of a college education, but it would be terribly unfair for families earning $600K to be receiving aid while other families earning a quarter of that do not.</p>

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<p>Sat: How much would be a relatively good score for the SAT, in my case.</p>

<p>Applying next year: I actually can stay in an extra year in school as I am in an accelerated program which meant I skipped a year, if I could stay an extra year what could I improve on?</p>

<p>For Aid: I understand that, but my parents aren’t willing to pay ANYTHING. That’s really unfair to provide people aid based on there families income considering most people families wont spend the same amount of money as a percentage of there income. You see it’s not the the family receiving aid but the actual students. What can I do in my case?</p>

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<p>@Sharecentury - You score is fine, and won’t hold you back. I have no idea if I higher score might improve your chances. My point is that you don’t currently have an application that will yield you acceptance based on academic factors alone.</p>

<p>Regarding costs: Unless you are financially independent from your parents, and can prove it, college costs in the USA are considered to be the joint responsibility of parent and child. If parent’s income didn’t count in determining how much a family can afford, the children of billionaires would be getting free rides, while the children of poor families forced to work their way through college would be paying the full cost.</p>

<p>There are plenty of families out there making a quarter of what your family paying the full cost of college, often as much as 30-40% of their yearly gross income, and struggling to survive as a result There are millions of parents and kids taking out large loans to cover college costs. The cost of college should be drop in the bucket for your parents…we are talking 10% of their income…after college expenses, they would still be earning over half a million dollars a year. Your parents must be very selfish if they are making that sort of money and are unwilling to put anything towards your education.</p>

<p>The reality: the only people paying a lower percentage of their income towards college than your parents would be are those making less than 1/10 of what they are making. Ask your parents how they would like to live on $5000/month, raise a family, and pay college expenses at the same time.</p>

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<p>Regarding profile:</p>

<p>Can you think of any aspects that I could improve to improve my chances of being accepted?</p>

<p>Regarding scholarship: </p>

<p>I believe that it is unfair to negatively discriminate against people because there family, not even them have high income. I believe that even children of billionaires should be able to get scholarships based on there performances and not the financial situation of there family . This concept follows the core values of democracies and meritocracies , which our country ( The U.S ) keeps on saying it has aka " Land of the free ". People with family earning high income should be able to get as much scholarship opportunities as people who come form low income families because the financial situation of a person’s family certainly does not reflect the financial situation of a person/individual within that family. An example of this is how ALL families are given welfare to take care of there children, not only the high earning families or the lower earning families. I myself am a clear example, in my case people with families who have a lesser income would be way better off than me, if there parents help them. Because there parents might only give them $100 a year but I on the other hand will not get anything, plus the fact that I wont be entitled to scholarships or subsidized education.</p>

<p>Now you might think that it is greedy of my parents, although I personally believe it is not, as far as I am concerned I am not earning that money, my family is. Now the way my family spends its money is completely up to them considering I didn’t contribute to the making of it and am actually doing the complete opposite by being a cost to them ( they are spending money to feed me , housing , etc). Under your theory, if parents are inherently obliged to pay for their children education then where does it stop? Do they need to pay for their children’s cars? Their children’s house? Their children’s marriage? Their children’s trips and cruises to the Bahamas? You get my point.</p>

<p>So the reality here is that the system is making over sweeping generalizations which negatively discriminates and deprives many qualified people from pursuing higher education.</p>

<p>Don’t take it personally :slight_smile: Btw</p>

<p>How can I prove I am independent?</p>

<p>How can I prove that I am a independent? I looked through the requirements and there is no way I can prove it. I don’t think getting married to a stranger is a good idea either…</p>