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<p>i mean 25th percentile gpa and 50th percentile LSAT for T14 law school, my bad.</p>
<p>bdm, just a typo as I was posting at work</p>
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<p>But the question is how they can raise GPA standards without compromising their LSAT numbers. There are probably fewer than 1500 applicants with 170+ LSATs every year, which means that HLS enrolls around a third of them, maybe more. There aren’t many people in that group with 3.8+ GPAs that they’re not already admitting.</p>
<p>Something else maybe worth considering. If you apply early, you’re numbers probably don’t have to be as good. I figure things like this:</p>
<p>The posted %tiles on LSN for the incoming class include people who sent in their app late. Right? So do you think it would be reasonable for someone sending in their in Sept or Oct to subtract a few points off the GPA and LSAT to figure out their chances?</p>
<p>Lol a few points? No possible way. But if say a school takes 50% of applicants with your stats, you probably have a 65% chance for the application than 50%.</p>
<p>GlueEater is right in theory, but WAY off on the magnitude. It might – might – buy you a single LSAT point and maybe a couple hundredths of a GPA point. But definitely not “a few points.” Nothing near there.</p>
<p>based on what I saw on LSN and this years trend-
most applicants with lsat of 168 and 3.5 gpa were shut out of T-14’s (yes including cornell and georgetown). Those with 167/168 and 3.75+ fared a bit better.<br>
With those type of #'s, one should concentrate on T-25’s and hope for one or two acceptances from T-14. Early application may help a bit as will work/internship experience, but that plays a marginal role at best.</p>
<p>but from what I noticed this cycle, a gpa of 3.8 or better seemed to be the deciding factor as to who got into a T 14 vs a T -25 admittance- for those scoring in the high
160’s on the LSAT.</p>
<p>there were a few 3.5/168’s who got off the cornell waitlist in May. Those #'s should have been an auto admit in past cycles at cornell. But not this year. From what I noticed, there definitely seemed to be a bump in gpa needed for T-14 acceptance this year.<br>
of course- the higher your lsat, the more forgiving the school might be towards your gpa. But if you are a mere mortal and project your lsat to be in the 167 to 170 range, get that gpa up as much as possible. Your grades count alot-</p>
<p>Are you sure it’s that insignificant? I had a friend who had a 3.95+ and a 176 who turned in his application in February (or something else really late) and he was waitlisted at Columbia. Got into Harvard though. But regardless, Stanford and Columbia were pretty harsh on him for his late application, I think.</p>
<p>Stanford accepted him but it wasn’t until way after he’d committed to Harvard.</p>
<p>You were talking about benefits to applying very early rather than penalties for applying very late. The difference is relative to the main pool of applicants.</p>
<p>For example, imagine that almost everybody applies in November. An applicant one month earlier (October) can’t get that big a boost from it. But an applicant who’s three months later (February) can get a pretty large penalty.</p>
<p>Or, imagine that an admissions board makes all their decisions in January but keeps things open just in case. Any student who turns their application in before January is treated equivalently, but miss that date and you get penalized.</p>
<p>Etc. You get my point.</p>
<p>Glue eater, your story is actually evidence that it is significant. A 3.95 176 is above median at every school in the country, and yet get waitlisted and dinged at two schools, for sure one, that would have undoubtedly taken him earlier in the cycle.</p>