Chance moi?

Hey there!! I think you have a good chance of getting into Wellesley because of your broad EC’s and your grades seem alright :smiley: (Although I would recommend submitting your ACT over your SAT scores though it’s not as big of a deal as you would think…) I got in ED a few weeks ago so if you have questions for me, feel free to ask.

I understand that you want to take time to transition. That makes perfect sense to me. I understand how you have only shared this with your mom, and that you are getting ready to share this with other important people in your life.
However, Wellesley is a women’s college. Sure, they are willing to consider applications from transwomen, but every aspect of life at that college is for that part of the population which has been oppressed and silenced from birth through high school because of their ovaries and vaginas. You, who have lived your life as a man, have no idea what that oppression is like, because you have lived your life, even your high school life, as a privileged white male.

The people who love you should be giving you better advice. I can’t imagine sending my male-born child to a school specifically for those who have been oppressed by the male-born of the world. If you manage to get in, and you enroll, I can’t imagine you will be very happy.

Wellesley is a transformative place for those who have been oppressed all their lives because they were born female. It is not a prop in your “great reveal” fantasy by which you “solidify [your] family’s acceptance” of you as a transwoman (hint: that won’t work).

You have great scores and a great application. Do yourself a favor and look at co-ed colleges where you can take your time and come out (or not) on your own timetable. Do not set yourself up for pressure and disappointment. I suggest that you look at some equally fine co-ed colleges with a healthy trans and genderqueer population. If you are committed to the idea of a small LAC, think Oberlin, Bennington, Vassar. Consider Mount Holyoke, another seven sister which still considers itself a women’s college but which has opened its doors to genderqueer males as well as everyone else other than cis males. Larger universities, however, may actually offer more to you in terms of a supportive community.

Transwomen are hardly a source of oppression and sexism in women’s lives. Wellesley has made a commitment to accept people who identify as women, regardless of the sex listed on their birth certificate. As a Wellesley alumna, I am sick and tired of people in this thread interpreting the college’s admissions policies on behalf of the school and the original poster. This is what Wellesley has to say about applications from transwomen: http://www.wellesley.edu/about/president/trustees/announcement

If the admissions board has further questions about stellacastor’s commitment to living as a woman, they will contact her for further details. This is a process that concerns the school, the applicant, and the applicant’s close family members/community. Stellacastor did not ask anyone to debate her gender identity or her commitment to living as a woman; she asked us to look at her academic history and see if it was a fit for Wellesley. That this thread has veered so far off course into inappropriate personal questions and the implication that stellacastor is immature/playing out a fantasy is shameful.

Hear hear! I agree that we should not be putting words into people’s mouths.
@stellacastor Please feel free to PM me; I usually don’t post (haven’t in two years), but if you want someone to read over your essays or anything, my inbox is always open!

WW13, stellacastor specifically said that they hoped that an acceptance to Wellesley would “solidify my family’s acceptance.” It is not unusual on these threads for others to point out faulty logic or concerns with things the poster says, and I felt that was worthy of comment, as any decision based on a fantasy of how it would make family members react is usually a bad idea. Stella seems to be well-qualified for many colleges, and I would encourage Stella not to make a decision based on a fantasy, but on creating a supportive atmosphere for their ongoing transition. I think Stella has a good chance at admission, and am well aware of the Wellesley admissions statement, but, even if admitted, what Stella has said on this board makes me believe that Wellesley would be a very poor fit.

OT: Your statement that “transwomen are hardly a source of oppression and sexism in women’s lives” is completely incorrect and betrays the truth that you don’t know many transwomen. I have worked with many transwomen and many, even those I consider my friends, can be extremely sexist, condescending, mansplaining, and difficult. A lifetime of male socialization doesn’t magically disappear when one swaps pronouns, and well-documented studies have shown that transwomen have the same violence profile as others born male. This has nothing to do with Stella, who sounds like an exemplary student, but I do need to correct your naive comment.

Can a moderator please lock or close this thread? This line of conversation is making me feel extremely uncomfortable and unsafe.

@stellacastor *This was actually a tough decision. Not because of the “uncomfortable and unsafe” remark, that is easy to fix. Stop reading it. Lots of posts about all sorts of topics make some people uncomfortable, and unsafe I simply do not understand, unless you are telling me someone knows who you really are and has threatened you. If so, please report this to me directly and it will be dealt with.

No, it is more because it is an important discussion as it relates to Wellesley and, potentially, any college that is restricted to enrollment for females only. So it is quite informative for others as well. I am sure there are other threads about it already, but perhaps this has raised some new issues. To that extent it deserves to be aired out, because it does directly relate to your chances at Wellesley. But if people want to discuss this beyond your situation, they should create a new thread and make it general in nature and not about you in particular.

I will keep an eye on this for a couple of days and if it gets beyond the Terms of Service in tone or topic, I will close it. So far I am not seeing that, it is civil and it all relates directly or closely to your original question.*

Jessdr, you focused in on one small aspect of what the original poster said and twisted it to make it sound as though she believes going to Wellesley will be a cure-all when she clearly does not. What she actually said was that going to a women’s college would be “one more step to solidifying my family’s acceptance”. That’s hardly the drastic statement you make it out to be.

Also, it is hardly naive to dispute your assertion that transwomen are somehow oppressive towards other women. I’m sorry you’ve had a negative experience, but my personal experience has been the complete opposite. I doubt that anyone who chooses to attend a women’s college will last long if they treat their classmates with disrespect. I would much rather my alma mater accept people who identify as women than rejecting applicants who would thrive at a women’s college simply because they might have benefited from male privilege (in spite of their true gender identity) at some earlier point in their lives.

Finally, I noticed that the people in this thread who actually attended, are attending, or will attend Wellesley are supportive of Stella’s desire to attend the school. This gives me hope.

WW13, I am a Wellesley graduate.

@stellacastor - I know that the direction this thread has taken must be frustrating to you. You just wanted someone to chance you for goodness sake!

As a current student at Wellesley, I can assure you that a majority of students will support you and accept you as part of the community. Wellesley is the most accepting and least judgemental space I have ever experienced. It’s a place where gender and race are discussed openly and often, and nobody thinks twice about it when they find out that another student is LGBT+.

I must add, however, that there is a not insignificant minority of students who are opposed to the idea of having trans women on campus. Most of this sort of talk goes on behind closed doors, in dorm rooms and at small gatherings, but I feel like you should know that it exists. While these people will most likely not actively harass you if you attend Wellesley, they will always see you as an outsider, especially if you are not passing. You may hear an occasional comment from somebody questioning your place at the college. If similar discussions on fairly anonymous online forums make you feel uncomfortable or unsafe, you may want to consider how similar comments will affect you when coming from the people that you live and learn with.

I’m not trying to discourage you from going to Wellesley in any way, but I just think that you should be aware of the environment you will be walking into: almost exclusively accepting, but sometimes, from certain people, definitely not as much. Just some food for thought. As a trans woman, the students of Wellesley overwhelmingly believe you belong at a women’s college, and so does the faculty and the administration (as demonstrated by the new admissions policy). I hope to see you in campus next year! If not, I hope that you find an accepting community where you can learn comfortably.

Good luck with your transition!

I think you know already that your scores and grades are a little weak for Wellesley, especially for a white person from the northeast. However, there are a lot of unknowns so at this point all you can do is wait and see.

It’s not entirely clear to me what your expectations are regarding financial aid, but be aware that Wellesley is a PROFILE school and will require a PROFILE showing income and assets of both your parents (even a noncustodial parent if there is one). While the school will take into consideration any special circumstances, be aware that a parent refusing to contribute is not usually considered a special circumstance. There are many students whose parents, for example, refuse to pay for a women’s college, or a liberal arts college, or a private college, or a college where alumna or alumnus “x” went to school, etc. There are many, many students who end up in a bind when a noncustodial parent refuses to contribute or even fill out the PROFILE. Wellesley is indeed generous with financial aid for those families with demonstrated need, but, like most elite LACs, expects both parents to participate in paying for a students’ education and will require documentation of both parents’ income and assets, even if one or both of them refuses to contribute. I have personally known many students (I work in a high school) who have had to give up a dream to attend a particular college or even had to leave the college of their choice because a parent would not contribute the funds that were needed to make that happen.

Please be sure that there are other schools that you love on your dashboard which are less of a reach and also which may be easier to swing financially, either because of lower tuition, more merit aid, more willingness from your parents to contribute, or, if your parents are divorced and one is unwilling to pay, use only the FAFSA, which only looks at the income of the primary custodial parent.

BTW, since you mention being a resident of Delaware, I wanted to mention that a friend sent her gay son with Aspergers to University of Delaware and he had a wonderful experience, and spoke highly of the community spirit there. I don’t know if Delaware is on your list, but if it isn’t, I’d encourage you to take a look, especially if it seems likely that you will end up with some kind of estrangement from your parents and will want more financial independence.

@stellacastor Current Wellesley student here-

I haven’t written on CC since I was in High School, but I came across this thread and actually made a new account so that I could respond to it. Firstly, I want to sincerely apologize that you encountered such offensive and transphobic responses from some of the people on this thread. I want to make sure you know that the attitude of those posters, who, from looking through their other posts do not even seem to be Wellesley students or alums, and are therefore in no position whatsoever to speak for the Wellesley community, does not reflect viewpoints of our student body. I want you to know that while unfortunately, as tinyoreros said, there are some bigoted individuals, this type of attitude and behavior is not at all tolerated by the Wellesley community as a whole.

In response to your actual question… I was accepted at Wellesley with a slightly lower GPA than you have and the same (exact!) SAT score. I wouldn’t worry about the interview- I didn’t do one either and obviously I attend Wellesley today. You also seem qualified in terms of your extracurriculars, which display both a variety of interests, and a strong dedication to particular activities. Your recs sound strong as well!

Hey @stellacastor!
I think your stats are fantastic, and totally at par with what Wellesley generally expects. You seem to have a genuinely interesting common app essay that shows admissions a piece of who you are. As for your supplement, I think that as long as you made it clear that Wellesley IS the place that can allow for you to grow and try new things it should be great. Wellesley wants to know that its applicants genuinely want to be at Wellesley because it’s Wellesley-- not because it’s a highly ranked school (there are many of those), not because it’s a liberal arts school (there are also a plethora of those), and not because you want to go to a woman’s college (again, there are a handful of those). As long as you made it clear that Wellesley is the place you want to be at, I think you will be fine.

I was admitted a few weeks ago, and this was the advice I got from current Wellesley students.

Hope this helps!! :slight_smile:

@collegehuman210 @tankod123 Thank you both for your input! I submitted my application a few days ago, and I’m keeping my fingers crossed for admittance - Wellesley is honestly my dream school now.