Chance Out of State

<p>White/Male/North Carolina
Reasonably Competitive - Public
Applying for Need-Based Financial Aid: HELL yes, household income below $30K
Immigrant - the Ukraine (trilingual: Ukrainian, Russian, English)
First generation college student</p>

<p>3.93 Unweighted Grade Point Average
13/333 Class Rank</p>

<p>SAT: (730CR, 720M, 730W - 2180 total)
SAT2: (760 Mathematics Level 2, 750 United States History)
Courseload: AP Calculus BC, AP Statistics, AP Economics, AP German, AP Physics C: M & E/M
AP Exams: AP Computer Science AB (4), AP US History (5), AP English: Language and Composition (5)</p>

<p>~120 Volunteer Hours
17 hours/week work during school year, 38 during summer
Weekly after-school tutoring for underprivileged children in my town
Set up chess club at a church for underprivileged children
President of chess club
President of debate club
Participant in the North Carolina Governor's School 2007
Civitan Service Club
National Honors Society
Volunteer in laboratories at local hospital
3 years violin
1 year guitar</p>

<p>Distinguished Physics Student 2006-20007 School Year
1st Place - Catapult Building Competition</p>

<p>yea...i think it's a match</p>

<p>That's what I wanted to hear.</p>

<p>Thanks.</p>

<p>Berkeley OOS: match</p>

<p>Yeah, but with money? I doubt it.</p>

<p>True dat......</p>

<p>So the chance for substantial financial assistance is minimal?</p>

<p>Great...</p>

<p>They don't help out OOS students that much... but with scholarships and stuff i am sure you can get through it.</p>

<p>Any suggestions about searching for scholarships?</p>

<p>I'm not exactly sure of where I should start/when I should start/how much I can reasonably accumulate...etc.</p>

<p>Any advice would be awesome.</p>

<p>You won't get scholarships or aid from the UC, as the University of California system is paid for by the taxpayers of California for California residents. They accept out of state students, but expect them to foot the entire bill for their education. </p>

<p>You want privately funded scholarships, or maybe scholarships from North Carolina that you can use anywhere. Go ask your college counseling center at your high school for possible scholarship applications, especially for first generation college students. They should be able to steer you in the right direction. I don't know if you could reasonably accumulate enough money to fully fund your education through private scholarships. I do think it would be easier to get full funding from a private University.</p>

<p>So I'll get nothing at all?</p>

<p>I guess they mean it when they say that any school in the UC system is not worth it for out of state students. =/</p>

<p>I believe that Cal gives scholarships to OOS as well as in-state students, but the maximum you can get is the in-state cost. So, although it will cost about $40K per year for OOS, you can only get $25K max. I don't know if it is worth paying $15K extra per year, especially when you have UNC in-state.</p>

<p>You can get scholarships OOS -- the standards are simply higher. Check the UC site.</p>

<p>yea, Kyledavid is correct.</p>

<p>I think Haas trumps whatever UNC has to offer.</p>

<p>UNC is awesome, but it's still in North Carolina. The climate, as well as the general "happy go lucky" attitude of Southerners, is something I have to escape.</p>

<p>I still think Berkeley would be worth the extra $15K a year...especially if I can get some of that covered by outside scholarships.</p>

<p>Funny, I am from California and trying to decide whether to go to UNC. I was accepted to both UNC and Cal...I thought North Carolina was pretty cool on my last visit</p>

<p>40k is a gross overestimate...it's being very generous. Tuition is 25,000 a year if you waive out of health insurance. I lived in a triple last semester so that's 10,000 a year. I spent maybe at most 100 bucks a month on random stuff, so that comes to a total of 36,000. It only goes down from there because you'll probably move into an apartment the next year. There are decent places for 500 a month, so you'll be saving another $5000 a year. Of course you'll still have to add in food, but it still comes out to much less than 36,000.</p>