<p>bump bump bump bump</p>
<p>IMO apply yale ea. Thay way you’re not bound anywhere and can still apply huntsman/harvard/stanford for regulars. you’ll probs get into a couple of them anyways
<a href=“http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/what-my-chances/1016635-chance-me-will-chance-you-back.html[/url]”>http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/what-my-chances/1016635-chance-me-will-chance-you-back.html</a></p>
<p>To repeat many others on this thread, do not ED unless you are 100% sure that’s where you want to go. Another thing to take into consideration is money, I don’t know how important that is, but why not see how much they offer you first? You have a very impressive application, and I could see acceptance to both Harvard or Yale. You seem like a really interesting person, I would enjoy getting the chance to help edit and refine your essays if you’re ok with that (PM me). If you pull these essays off right, you are in at a lot of places.</p>
<p>if my application is not ready yet, do you think i should just wait until RD to submit all my apps? I don’t think it’d be a good idea to rush my essays
on that note, is there a limit in word length for the common app long essay?
my essay is about 1300 words right now. i know that is way too long, but what is the upper limit?</p>
<p>thanks!</p>
<p>Yale is pretty clear that they expect both essays (Common application and Yale supplement) to be about 500 words - you can and should check out the website. A 1300 word essay will drive an admissions officer crazy.</p>
<p>I don’t think you get the ED bump at Yale or Stanford that you get at some schools. So, given that, why rush and risk a subpar application hurting your chances?</p>
<p>^I agree with above. You need to make the points in your essay quickly and concisely. If your application is not ready yet, don’t damage your chances by applying early to yale or stanford. Just wait, you don’t get a boost from EA. ED only gets a boost because it implies commitment on the part of the applicant.</p>
<p>i would say you have an amazing chance at all of those schools… and not just in a general way. you should definitely point out the cool stuff youve done with linguistics and languages and ethnic studies though, since that’s really unique. as far as yale goes, if you can get your apps done together in at least decent shape i think you should risk turning it in this week. how close are you to being done? im still kind of far away from being done too myself but if i can get it to a point where i like my essays, even if i dont love them, i will be submitting. after all, you could be able to cut down your college options significantly. </p>
<p>also just curious, what is your top choice? assuming you got into all your colleges?</p>
<p>and i do not think you should ED columbia. i’m pretty sure you have a more than solid chance of getting in regular and you will probably always wonder whether you could’ve gotten in to yale/harvard/stanford/etc.</p>
<p>chance back me and my sister please mate!</p>
<p><a href=“http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/what-my-chances/1019503-me-vs-my-sister-yale-scea-please-chance-us.html[/url]”>http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/what-my-chances/1019503-me-vs-my-sister-yale-scea-please-chance-us.html</a></p>
<p>thank you!
is there really a reason to rush my application though? to make the nov 1 deadline
the deadline means i can submit it by 12 am on nov 1 right?</p>
<p>i am going to try to make the early deadline. won’t be too stressed if i miss it though.</p>
<p>could applying early hurt my chances though? i feel that the applicant pool will be way over my head.</p>
<p>i don’t think so - you are seriously very competitive. and if you look at the old yale scea threads many (if not most) of the acceptees have stats similar to yours - valedictorian, high ACT/SAT, leadership roles, cool hooks, leadership…</p>
<p>in my opinion, you should try your very best to get it done for nov 1. of course, it’s not the end of the world if you don’t finish it, but if you do get in (and i think you have a strong chance of doing so) you won’t have to apply to nearly as many colleges… just your very top choices. And if you don’t get accepted, you likely will get deferred and NOT rejected, so you will always have the second go round.</p>
<p>and i dont know for sure about the time. i think im using 11:50 pm on sunday as my deadline haha </p>
<p>but if your essays truly do suck on october 31 and you hate your essays… then i’d think twice. but my personal opinion is that you should try to go for it.</p>
<p>also do you know if colleges look at rank or transcript more? or do they compare them side by side? because i have gotten a few b’s in core science classes but have still a pretty strong rank since my school’s pretty competitive…but i’m sitll worried. what do you think?</p>
<p>i think if you have an upward trend thats super good.
as long as you have strong grades 10-12 i think you’ll be fine.
in terms of rank, i think if you have a lower gpa because you took harder courses than other people than you should be fine!
should I ED Huntsman at Penn? I don’t know if i could get in RD. but i also don’t want to be bound…</p>
<p>what do you want to end up doing professionally? if you want to go into business i hear penn’s wharton program is spectacular. but i’ve also heard that for other professions, whether be law or international relations or the like, it’d a little more difficult to go that direction since most of your peers will go into i-banking, ecetera and are interested in that sort of deal, even if the specific program is more geared towards languages (as i hear is true about the huntsman program from my friend but im not the expert to ask).</p>
<p>and i think people have said this several times but you definitely don’t want to be bound to a college you’re not SURE about especially if you have strong stats. if i were you i DEFINITELY would not ED since it sounds like you have a very strong chance at getting in RD to HYS (work on your essays!!) or even the huntsman program and you don’t seem to be in love with penn. and you can always go to wharton for an mba i’d think</p>
<p>thats true. thanks for the advice!</p>
<p>also, which scores should i use</p>
<p>SAT (just got today): 2370 - 800 math, 800 writing, 770 critical reading</p>
<p>or</p>
<p>ACT: 35 - 36 English, 35 Math, 35 Science, 33 Reading, essay: 9</p>
<p>which should i send? both?</p>
<p>I’m not sure how the ACT works but I think that translates to a 2340 SAT so I guess I would say send both since theyre both strong! But if you want things to be simpler/cheaper I’d send just SAT scores definitely (unless you have another SAT score that’s significantly lower and since Yale asks you to send all scores I’d go with sending both to show them this second time wasn’t a fluke) </p>
<p>if you can help me out on this:</p>
<p><a href=“http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/yale-university/1021970-help-yale-scea-applicants-how-many-bs.html[/url]”>http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/yale-university/1021970-help-yale-scea-applicants-how-many-bs.html</a></p>
<p>bumpbumpbump</p>
<p>Ok test scores and rank but i dont see what the fuss is about. Lets be honest, in just the circle of my peers, i know at least half of them who got over 2300’s and 800’s and top 5% ranks. Its gonna come down to a super competitive race with those people. Some will win, most will lose.</p>
<p>Where are these “cool hooks” that you see kidfromvirginia? Average EC. Its gonna come down to recommendations and essays. </p>
<p>You always want to ask yourself: “Am I likely letter recipient material?” If not, its time to work those essays more. I mean if you won like USAMO, you can close your eyes and wind up at Harvard during the fall. But for the rest of us, it comes down to the recommendation letter and essay uncertainty hell hole.</p>
<p>At any rate:
low reach/reach at HYPSM. Low reach at Penn, High match if you ED.</p>
<p>thanks for the chance!
just an update, i got my sat score up to 2370.
that should help i think
and jasonInNy, no one was making a fuss. thank you for your honesty though.</p>
<p>Very impressive–your only competition seems to be the fact that you are competing against other Asian and Australian super-students</p>
<p>Yale-reach (because everyone is)
Harvard-reach (because everyone is)
MIT high match, because of the first places in the science competitions
Penn match, but Huntsman is a low reach
Columbia low reach
Brown match
Georgetown low match/ in
Dartmouth low reach
Duke low match
UC Berkeley match
USC safety
UCLA safety (hate to say safety, since this is my alma mater (MBA program))
Stanford–low reach (they will love your swimming skills as well as your academics, but they get thousands of applications from Northern California Asian students–and accept very few)</p>
<p>Where should you go?–This really depends upon what you want to major in–and your future career plans. How/where should you apply ea/ed?–Personally if you want to get into one of the big 5 (I notice you only list 4 of the 5 for chances–leaving out Princeton) (Harvard/Yale/Stanford/MIT), I’d apply either EA to Yale or SCEA to Stanford. I think your best chance of those four schools is at MIT #1, then Stanford #2, then Yale #3, then Harvard #4. </p>
<p>If you want to major in business apply to Penn or USC, for Engineering–Yale/Dartmouth/Brown; political science/international relations–Columbia/Harvard/Georgetown, science–MIT/Stanford/UC Berkeley/Duke/UCLA, cinema studies–USC/Duke/NYU, Mathematics–UCLA/Brown, Economics–Stanford/Yale/Harvard. </p>
<p>Harvard and Yale and Stanford and MIT have the “name” prestige–but if you want to be sure of getting in, I’d apply ED to Columbia. Another question–how would you feel about living at home (which is probably what you would do if you go to Stanford or UC Berkeley)? If you want to get out away from your parents and really be on your own, you might want to get away from home–but the question is, would you still focus on your studies in this case. Also, how important is the beauty and location of the campus. I find Penn is a fantastic school–but I hate the area outside of the school. Same for USC. Dartmouth is pretty–but miles from anywhere. Columbia is right on Manhattan–but a ways from the heart of the action–and NYC can be overwhelming. Brown in Providence is very pretty–and was my first choice for undergraduate school (I was accepted, but didn’t attend for financial reasons)-but it is a lesser-known location. Georgetown is in the beautiful part of Washington, D.C.–which is a very up-and-coming town right now–particularly for young career movers–but remember Georgetown is a catholic school. UCLA sits right between Beverly Hills and Santa Monica beach–but traffic can be a bit of a pain. Harvard is in a great location and great architectural shape–while MIT just down the way still looks like it was built in the 1930s. Yale has the most interesting architecture–but is in a run-down town in the middle of nowhere. Duke is in another up-and-coming research area–but NC isn’t for everyone–and it seems to thrive on its basketball program over everything else but its medical center. </p>
<p>Final choices (my view):
Based upon your interest in ethnic studies and politics–I’d choose Columbia or Georgetown or Harvard (all in larger metro areas–NYC, Washington DC and Boston, respectively). If I’m reading you wrong and you decide to major in science, then go to either Stanford, MIT or Duke–and definitely consider applying to Princeton also. Good luck.</p>
<p>Thank you Calcruzer for such a thorough and helpful response! I really appreciate the time and effort you spent helping me out.</p>
<p>Anyone else care to chance me? I WILL chance back!!</p>
<p>bumppppppppppp</p>
<p>I don’t mean to be snarky, but at this point you’re not going to get useful information from more people chancing you. At many of the top schools it’s really hard to chance, and the only thing people can say is that you have a much better chance than most of their applicant pool of getting admitted.</p>
<p>What you should be doing now, if you haven’t already, is refining your essays. Figure out what schools want, what their culture is like, what kind of image they want to present to the world, and try to reflect some of that (in your own way, of course) in your essays. I’ve heard Columbia values intellectual bookworms, hardcore readers. Don’t quote me on that. But if you can find out this sort of thing about the colleges you care about the most, your application will be that much stronger.</p>