Chances? admission and scholarship

<p>Hey! I never did one of these, but was wondering how i'd do at fordham admissions. I have my heart set on fordham b/c of its nyc (i'd apply for lincoln center college) location and the 3/2 engineering program with columbia.
so, this is me: well, my stats...my personality is hopefully pretty nice too :) </p>

<p>white male
major:3/2 fordham/columbia program
math most likely(fordham) and engineering(columbia)...undecided at which kind but if i had to narrow it down i would guess biomedical, civil, electrical (very different...but ill figure it out...hopefully)</p>

<p>2 years of HS in westchester, ny and last 2 years of HS in west chester, pa
SATs</p>

<p>CR: 660
M:690
W:670</p>

<p>SAT2s
Math 1:700
Bio:710
will take math2 in fall b/c its good to have for an engineering major</p>

<p>APs:
Bio-4
UShistory-4
Will take calc bc, chem and physics C APs in upcoming senior year</p>

<p>ECs-warning-they're really bad, lol
summer jobs since year after freshman year
habitat for humanity (not a whole lot of hours-it was a school chapter)
volunteering at museum currently
school musical
freshman crosscountry
other stuff i can't think of at the moment but there is more stuff</p>

<p>other stuff:
mom went to marymount (now fordham), dad went to columbia...so this fordham/columbia program seems perfect for me...haha</p>

<p>i think i have a shot at the Loyola and Joques Scholarship but I'm really hoping to get the dean's scholarship. otherwise, i couldn't go. loans are possible but only if i had some school aid as well so i didn't have a ton of debt after school. whaddya think?</p>

<p>sorry, forgot grades
gpa (w) 4.2
gpa (uw) 3.7 or 3.8…i forget, lol. but mostly around A-s and As for my grades</p>

<p>good chance
i’m guessing loyola scholarship unless your SATS cross the 1400 m/cr mark</p>

<p>As far as I know, the 3-2 engineering program with Columbia is only offered at the Rose Hill campus in the bronx, because a chemistry or physics major is required (which is only offered at Rose Hill). Plus, since you wrote that you’re interested in Math, I think it would be almost impossible to double major physics-math or chemistry-math with only 3yrs. being done at Fordham.</p>

<p>The link below is for the fordham/columbia engineering program:</p>

<p>[url=<a href=“http://www.fordham.edu/academics/programs_at_fordham_/engineering_1650.asp]Engineering[/url”>http://www.fordham.edu/academics/programs_at_fordham_/engineering_1650.asp]Engineering[/url</a>]</p>

<p>hm…that’s interesting. i got my info at this website: [Cooperative</a> Program in Engineering | Fordham College at Lincoln Center](<a href=“http://www.fordham.edu/academics/colleges__graduate_s/undergraduate_colleg/fordham_college_at_l/special_programs/preprofessional_prog/cooperative_program__22325.asp]Cooperative”>http://www.fordham.edu/academics/colleges__graduate_s/undergraduate_colleg/fordham_college_at_l/special_programs/preprofessional_prog/cooperative_program__22325.asp)
and it said students spend 3 years at lincoln center and that they typically major in mathematics and get a BS from fordham and columbia for 2 years and get an engineering degree from there</p>

<p>is this different from the actual “3-2” program…this page calls it the cooperative program.
well, if it is, i’m def interested in the program in the link above b/c its at lincoln center</p>

<p>i have a friend that is doing that 3-2 program and he’s not majoring in chem/phys. he’s majoring in math. you can do it, but its just gonna be more work. you should call up the head of that department and ask.</p>

<p>You’ll get in and you’ll get money. No worry. But make sure you look at the Lincoln Center campus before you commit to going there. My daughter visited last year; she loved the area, but didn’t care for the main classroom building. She said it felt like a big high school to her. The Bronx campus was much more traditional, with still easy access to the city. (My D ended up in a small town college, ironically.)</p>

<p>You’re right, I now see that Lincoln Center offers the 3-2 combined program with Columbia’s Engineering school. Be careful though, many of the listed Columbia programs require more than 2 semesters of physics - which would require you to commute up to Rose Hill for physics courses beyond the first 2 that Lincoln Center offers. There’s an old saying: “the devil is always in the details” - which is very true with these combined programs between two colleges. Take a good look at the following websites from Columbia:</p>

<p>From Columbia’s website concerning their combined programs with their college of engineering:
[2007</a> - 2008 SEAS Bulletin: Undergraduate Programs](<a href=“http://www.engineering.columbia.edu/bulletin/undergraduate_studies/undergrad_programs/index.html]2007”>http://www.engineering.columbia.edu/bulletin/undergraduate_studies/undergrad_programs/index.html)</p>

<p>Here’s a very good faq page for the cooperative programs from Columbia’s engineering website:
[Columbia</a> University Office of Undergraduate Admissions - Frequently Asked Questions](<a href=“http://www.studentaffairs.columbia.edu/admissions/engineering/combined/faq.php#4]Columbia”>http://www.studentaffairs.columbia.edu/admissions/engineering/combined/faq.php#4)</p>

<p>Most important that I would consider from this is:
4. What are the prerequisites?
Admission is guaranteed if you: </p>

<p>Have been enrolled at an affiliated school for at least the past 2 years.
Receive an overall GPA and a pre-engineering GPA of 3.0 or higher.
Receive 3 favorable recommendations: from your Combined Plan liaison and both your science and math instructors at your home institution.
You have successfully completed the course load stipulated by the articulation agreement between your home institution and Columbia, which includes:
the science and math prerequisite courses listed in the Pre-Combined Plan Curriculum Guide and
the major and distribution requirements prescribed by your home institution. </p>

<p>Then there’s the Pre-Combined Plan Curriculum Guide"</p>

<p>This guide can be found in the following pdf from Coumbia:
<a href=“http://www.studentaffairs.columbia.edu/admissions/applications/pdf/precombined_guide.pdf[/url]”>http://www.studentaffairs.columbia.edu/admissions/applications/pdf/precombined_guide.pdf&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

<p>Look closely for what physics courses are required with the individual Columbia School of Engineering majors listed in this guide. 2 semesters are the minimum required (which can be done at Lincoln Center), but many require greater than 2 - this would force you to commute up to Rose Hill 4x’s/week for a 3rd or 4th physics course. These are the pre-requisites from your “home” institution, meaning Fordham University, unless it states in a paranthesis that the course can be taken while at Columbia.</p>

<p>Remember, don’t take anything for granted, especially from another student. Speak to the administrator in charge of the combined program at Lincoln Center:</p>

<p>mailto:<a href=“mailto:strzemecki@fordham.edu”>strzemecki@fordham.edu</a></p>

<p>and, ask to see course by course/semester by semester what the program looks like while you’re at Fordham majoring in math. Also, ask what your last 2yrs. could look like, again course by course/semester by semester while you’re at Columbia (making sure that your intended major at the Fu School of Engineering is possible in a practical sense with the math/science courses you would be taking at Fordham).</p>

<p>Never assume anything and always get it in writing if there’s any bending of the “pre-requisite” rules going on. You need to be extra vigilent with these combined programs involving two different institutions to make sure that you satisfy the pre-requisite courses for Columbia (and the required courses at Fordham) since Fordham is not detailing the specifics at their webpage, nor making the information easily found in the undergraduate bulletin (as far as the engineering cooperative program with Lincoln Center).
[Cooperative</a> Program in Engineering | Fordham College at Lincoln Center](<a href=“http://www.fordham.edu/academics/colleges__graduate_s/undergraduate_colleg/fordham_college_at_l/special_programs/preprofessional_prog/cooperative_program__22325.asp]Cooperative”>http://www.fordham.edu/academics/colleges__graduate_s/undergraduate_colleg/fordham_college_at_l/special_programs/preprofessional_prog/cooperative_program__22325.asp)</p>

<p>Good luck…</p>