<p>So...I found out that Fordham has this cool 3-2 engineering program with columbia where students go to Fordham for 3 years, get their BA, then go to columbia (SEAS) and get their BS. BUT....i am really REALLY interested in being a doctor, and i love engineering so I was wondering if anyone knew if you could do premed while in this program...along with engineering of course. thnx guys, any responses will be a big help :P</p>
<p>lol anyone....plezeee i would appreciate it so much!</p>
<p>what would be the purpose of doing engineering and pre-med? if you are going to do engineering.. you would probably be better off going to a polytechnic institute and get your BS in engineering in four years instead of 5. You'll save time and a boat load of money.<br>
if you want to be a doctor. do pre-med. if you want to be an engineer, go 3-2. Either course of study is extremely difficult, and it would not be wise to combine the two. it is most likely impossible to fit a premed program in the time you have with the 3-2. Depending on the AP credits you come in with.. you might not even finish all your core reqs in the allotted three years. Oh, and for pre-med, your AP science courses don't count for anything.. you have to retake all your sciences. </p>
<p>So my advice is go do some soul searching. Find out what you want to do. Do you want to work with machinery, and chemicals, or do you want to treat people. Both have their ups and their downs.</p>
<p>ilyasaber14, thank you so much for your reply. i did consider going to a polytechnic institute, NYU-Poly to be exact, but the problem with those colleges is that MOST of them dont offer a good liberal arts background - which i want to have for medical school (nowadays, they want a student thats academically diverse...not just a science junky lol). The reason why i wanted to do the 3-2 program is because their are alot of doctors who have their B.S. in biomedical engineering, or environmental engineering, so I didnt think that it would be a problem. My main problem with blending engineering and premed, particularly at fordham, is that their are CORE classes that you have to take and if i blend premed and engineering, i was wondering if i could even be able to finish my core requirement by my junior year, before i go to columbia. Do you, or anyone else, know if this is POSSIBLE??? (btw, i really dont care how much work it takes, i'll do anything for a good education and i love the challenge--first generation, URM (black), high motivation). Thanks guys, any response would be great.</p>
<p>Yes, i know what you mean. i was in your situation when i was deciding which college to go to... There are def. great polytech univ. out there, but their lib. arts courses are weak. I am glad to say i chose F.U. I got to try different things.. and actually got out of science and into a different field.<br>
I'm sure you can complete the core and everything else in three yrs. There's gonna be a new core instated really soon. I'm just saying the engineering courses and pre-med might not fit together.. but you can always take some of your core during the summer sessions.<br>
Yeah, so you do have a difficult choice up ahead. Consider everything that you find important in a college. I know from experience it's not an easy choice.... Good Luck!!!</p>
<p>I'm doing the 3-2 program. Doing pre-med and the 3-2 program will likely be near impossible, simply because the 3-2 program is arranged specifically so that it will take exactly 3 years to finish the program at Fordham on a loaded schedule - the highest amount of credit you're alotted. It's highly unlikely that you will be able to fit additional courses, at least not without graduating 2-3 years late.</p>
<p>nah PlattsburghLoser, I emailed the 3-2 coordinator at columbia and she said that MANY of the required engineering courses are premed requirements (i.e. physics, chem, computer science, mol. bio, calc) so, it might not be out of the question. but I'll talk with the liaison at fordham just to make sure. O and PlattsburghLoser, what major are you at fordham??? Physics or Chem?? And what is your schedule like, im so interested to see how intense it is because i've heard from ALOT of people that its craaaazy intense.</p>
<p>The website about the 3-2 program is a bit misleading, you don't have to Physics or Chemistry, you just need to be in a science of some sort, i.e. I'm doing Computer Science and then Computer Engineering at Columbia. </p>
<p>My schedule for next semester is Physics II, Computer Science II and lab, Calculus II, Data Structures and a lit class.
It's a little over-whelming since math is not my forte. </p>
<p>If you want to speak with the person who runs the 3-2 program (and who will also end up being your adviser if you declare the 3-2 program) you can email him here: strzemecki[at]fordham.edu or call 212 636-6332</p>
<p>He's a little difficult to get a hold of, though.</p>
<p>PlattsburghLoser, thank you so much for the contact info! I dont know if it was just me, but i couldnt find ANY info on the liaison of the 3-2 program anywhere on fordham's website so i was alil' concerned. Really appreciate it! O, and thats my ONLY problem with the 3-2 program----the math. I can do science, or any of the humanities until im blue in the face but math just zips right over my head. It will definitely be a challenge...btw, is it true that your supposed to have completed up to Calc 4 BEFORE u go to columbia????</p>
<p>hey im doing the program too,I however am a freshman. Its intense but it can be done, one has to be determined of course b/c lets say you decide to drop it junior year it will take longer to finish your degree.</p>
<p>the problem with being a 3-2 and a premed is that yes some classes are required for both, but the order they need to be required is different. For example I am taking Bio next year(sophomore year) while all the freshman premed are taking Bio freshman year. It might be able to work but you should make sure before making a decision.</p>
<p>I'm very interested in this program at Fordham too. Just wondering what are the requirements for being in this program? Just admission to Fordham? What major do you have to take while you are doing this or do you only take core classes?</p>
<p>i'm thinking about doing this and i want to know the risk...are you guaranteed to go to columbia for those 2 years as long as you have the minimum GPA? because if not i don't want to waste my time, you know?</p>
<p>Wow. A lot of questions here.</p>
<p>Yes, you do need to have taken all four calculus classes before going to Columbia, which comes out to about two years. The problem is, however, that some classes are offered...on what seems like a random basis. Like Calculus I may only be offered during the fall, so if you miss it, you'll have to wait until next year.</p>
<p>You're allowed to major in Mathematics, Physics, Chemistry, Computer Science, or Humanity/Social Sciences at Fordham </p>
<p>and</p>
<p>Civil Engineering, Computer Engineering, Computer Science, Earth and Environmental Engineering, Electrical Engineering, Engineering Management Systems, Engineering Mechanics, Financial Engineering, Industrial Engineering, Materials Science and Engineering, Mechanical Engineering, Operations Research, Chemical Engineering, Biomedical Engineering, Applied Mathematics and/or Physics, Chemical Engineering at Columbia</p>
<p>The sample curriculum (something they advise 3-2 to follow, with variations of course, i.e. instead of taking German, you'd take the language course you prefer)</p>
<p>(This is for Computer Science major - It's the only sheet I have since that's my major, but remove the computer courses and replace it with your major courses and it's the same)</p>
<p>Fall Semester, Y1:</p>
<p>Calculus I
Computer Science and Lab
English Comp
History I
Philosophy I</p>
<p>Spring Semester, Y1:</p>
<p>Calculus II
Computer Science, II W/ Lab
Faith and Critical Reason
Close Reading
Basic Macroeconomics</p>
<p>Fall Semester, Y2
Multiv. (It's abbreviated on the curriculum sheet, I'm not sure what multiv means) Calc. I
Physics I, W/ Lab
Chemistry I, w/ Lab
Literature
Intro to German</p>
<p>Spring Semester, Y2
Multiv Calc II
Physics, II
Data structures
Intro to the Old Testament
German, II</p>
<p>Fall Semester, Y3
Intro + Web programing
Java Programming
Differential Equations
Philosophical Ethics
Art History</p>
<p>Spring Semester, Y3
Computer Architecture
Computer Algorithm
Modern American History
Cultural Anthropology
Cyberspace Ethics</p>
<p>Of course this is just what a sample schedule would look like. Dr. Strzmeiki strongly urges taking your major and 3-2 req courses first and save the Core classes towards the end or use them as fillers since the school offers several Core classes slots and few major slots. </p>
<p>As for admission to Columbia, I asked Dr. Strzmeiki this before I enrolled in the program and he said as long as you have a 3.0 in your major, you're guaranteed admittance to Columbia.</p>
<p>thanks!</p>
<p>and multiv. means multi-variable calculus, which i'll probably be taking next year as a frosh</p>
<p>i'm planning on majoring in mathematics and idk how strong the math department is at fordham...</p>
<p>gracias PlattsburghLoser!! :P, i hoope i get into fordham! good luck to all who are applying</p>
<p>is this program competitive to get into? are there a certain number of slots?</p>
<p>bumpppppppppp</p>
<p>no, it's not competitive. almost no one does the 3-2 program. People a lot of people usually enroll into pre-med, but then a lot drop out by the end of the second year, usually bc of orgo/gen chem. </p>
<p>I didn't know that financial engineering was available. Whan major do you need for that?</p>
<p>alright awesome</p>
<p>is it considered respectable just as the honors program is?</p>
<p>um. completing a BS in engineering is a fairly good accomplishment. If you can do it without massacring your GPA that'd be even better.<br>
But don't think about which program is more prestigious. study what you're interested in. at first i thought an engineering degree would be awesome.. but then i read into what engineers actually do.. i found my self less interested in the subject.</p>