I am a Senior from New York looking to major in accounting or economics
GPA: 90UW 94W (upward trend, finishing junior year with a 91 UW 101W)
ACT: 29 30E 28M 29R 27S (30 if the school superscores 30E 28M 30R 31S)
SAT Subject in Chemistry: 700, US: 620 World History: 610, waiting on Math II
SAT: 1180, 570 CR and 610 Math, I took it march of sophomore year so I may take again
3 AP’s this year (Chemistry, Lang, US History) next year 3 (Gov, Psych and Human Geography)
3 Dual enrollment classes this year ( Accounting 101/102, Public Speaking 101, and Foundations of Communication)
5 next year (English 101/102, Pre-Calculus, Statistics, Sports Marketing and Management, Business Law and Economics)
ExtraCurriculars:
3 years spring varsity track
4 years of FBLA and am the Public Relations officer of club next year (Won local award for excellence in Business Math)
4 years of Cancer awareness club
2 year executive mentor at my school (Similar to a tour guide for high school freshman)
Waiter at a pizza place
Work at a carpet store
Chance me for Lehigh, Bucknell, Penn State, Tulane, Brown, Cornell, Dartmouth, UNC, UVA, Colgate, Villanova, U Wisconsin-Madsion, UDelaware, Elon, Indiana University, University of Miami, University of Georgia, College of the Holy Cross, Notre Dame and Georgetown and Boston College
I know a few of those are unrealistic but just wondering where I stand for these schools
Finances are not an issue for any of the schools
I’m not sending SAT, only ACT and money isn’t an issue, also the SUNY system is pathetic compared to other state school programs, I’m not trying to sound spoiled that’s just the way it is, a crappy private school puts you in a better position than any SUNY
Even if comfortably full pay, you have a lot of reaches: Brown, Cornell, Dartmouth, UNC, UVA, Colgate, Villanova (if looking at B school), College of the Holy Cross, Notre Dame, Georgetown, Boston College.
I’d characterize these as matches: Lehigh, Bucknell, Penn State (but probably not direct admit to Smeal), Tulane, U Wisconsin-Madison, UDelaware, Elon, Indiana University (ACT may be a tiny bit low for direct admit to Kelley), University of Miami, University of Georgia. But remember, match means that while your stats give you a good shot at acceptance, you may not get in.
I don’t see a true safety on your list. You might look at some other Catholic colleges with strong business programs such as St. Joe’s, U Scranton, Loyola MD, Marquette, possibly Fordham (although it’s reachier than the others I mentioned).
My top two are Lehigh and Bucknell, so I was planning to ED it to one of those two, which would you recommend in terms of which school offers a better business program
Bucknell and Lehigh will be comparable for business. Their ED admit rates are about 60%, so it is a good strategy to apply early. But your lack of calculus and any AP math is not going to help you for the business program. Definitely send the ACT and not the SAT. And you may want to send only the chemistry subject test. The other 2 won’t help much.
OP you should add a SUNY ( Bing is a match/reach). Delaware is a great and realistic school for you.
@Cw82200 … no… a crappy private school does not put you in a better position than any SUNY. That comment is ridiculous. I do not see any true safeties on your list.
That’s just not how I see it, we don’t have any stellar SUNY’s (especially with a strong business program) with any sort of strongish alumni background, where as even slightly crappy private school will generally have a stronger alumni backing, or even an out of state upper level state school
Students who attend the business schools at Binghamton, Stony Brook, or SUNY Buffalo get a solid education, and the students I know who graduated from these programs are all employed. Are these programs the strongest in the country? No… but in my opinion they are preferable to a “crappy private school.”
Your stats put you on par with the business school at SUNY Buffalo and possibly Stony Brook. Binghamton is a reach. You could add schools such as JMU, UMass and UConn, and applying ED to Lehigh may improve your chances.
Keep in mind that being from NY with an ACT score of 29 and no obvious hook, places you at a disadvantage at many of the schools on your list. The competition from this geographic area is fierce.
I have hooks I just didn’t feel like listing them, My dad went to Tulane, my mom went to U miami My uncle went to Lehigh (they consider that a legacy), My grandpa is a huge donor to Holy Cross, My sister went to bucknell
Georgetown is an outstanding school… it really is… but… after reading about how prestigious it is, how hard the application process is, how royalty/top prep school kids all want to go, how many turn down HYP to attend, how you will have the G’town brand, how educated people know where the money is, how well it does on Wall Street, if you want to work for Goldman you are in the best place possible, it blows everybody out of the water, etc… my point has been proven. Students who attend UNC…many who have the stats ( or higher) to get into Georgetown…( not all of course)… Generally don’t speak this way. It is not who they are as people. They are too busy researching Teach for America… to care. They are too busy doing science research and figuring out ways to detect autism in infants… to care. They are too busy visiting high schools and encouraging low income HS students throughout the country to apply to college… and helping them with test prep and the financial aid process. They are too busy researching the air quality in Brazil… And making healthy snacks to bring to the local after school programs… to remotely care about the stuff that was posted. They are too busy discussing a water purification system and how it benefits those in underdeveloped countries… to care. They are too busy presenting about the Holocaust… at major conferences… to care. The students are too busy to care about that stuff posted above- they would rather stop and chat with their professors at Med Deli and discuss their cool research position. And… despite not caring about appearances, UNC still manages to have a top ranked business school, win a Nobel Prize in conjunction with Duke ( DNA repair), and have the #2 school in the country for Global Public Health. It still manages to have a strong alumni network and sandwiches named after it at restaurants in NYC… and of course…drumroll please… it still manages to win the national championship.
Georgetown is an excellent school and the students who attend should be very proud of their accomplishments… but generally speaking… GT attracts a different type of student than UNC. It would surprise me if a student loved both. There will always be exceptions of course, and we have to be very careful not to paint with a broad brush.
@twogirls You are advising not to paint schools or students with a broad brush, but isn’t that exactly what you are doing?
I do think you are misinformed about Georgetown. Being a Jesuit school, community service is part of their DNA. After all, the Jesuit motto is ‘men and women for others’ and as such a very large portion of students are actively involved in community service and social justice issues both in and out of the classroom, making a difference in their community. I would suspect that the % of students involved in service and service trips is higher at Georgetown than UNC because of the Jesuit influence. And in terms of graduates, the business school will send many kids on to banking careers, but the college, SFS and nursing program are filled with peace corps kids, teach for America kids, and many others who go on to work in areas that better communities domestically and abroad. The way you describe Georgetown does not ring true in the slightest bit.
@wisteria100 my post has no context now. I was responding to two very long posts that have since been deleted. It was from a student who will be attending GT and it was terribly obnoxious.
GT is an outstanding school, but I still believe it attracts a different type of kid … overall… than UNC. Of course there will be both types of kids at both schools, and that is why I said we should not paint with a broad brush. I guess I am tarnished by a family member who spent the weekend at GT and was asked twice why he attends a public high rather than a private one. This goes along with the attitude presented in the two deleted posts.
Are all of the students at Georgetown the same as the one represented here by the deleted posts? Absolutely not. Are all of the students at UNC Peace Corps kids who have no interest in making a lot of money and working on Wall Street? No- not at all. Many aspire to this. I guess I am talking about the overall attitude- it reminds me of my home town and it’s not attractive. And generally speaking… it was reported that royalty and prep school kids aspire to attend GT. That is not the case at UNC.
FWIW… the unflattering description of Georgetown in my post… that was not my description. Those words came from a Georgetown student whose posts were deleted.