Chances at Stern

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<p>just wondering if it would be realistic for me to apply</p>

<p>terrible GPA freshmen and sophomore years, a lot better junior year. also, I go to a public magnet high school (Bergen Academies), and every single class is equivalent to honors or better</p>

<p>Freshmen GPA 3.4
Chem C+
Advanced Analysis I B+
Physics A
English B+
History A
Spanish A-</p>

<p>Sophomore GPA 3.0
Chem B+
Advanced Analysis II B+
Physics C
Biology B+
English B+
History A-
Spanish C</p>

<p>Junior GPA - expecting a 3.8ish
Chem B
AP Calculus AB A
Physics A
Biology A-
IB English B
History A
Spanish A-
AP Microeconomics A</p>

<p>Senior Year - a list of classes i'll be talking, i'm expecting a GPA around 3.8 again
AP Statistics
AP Physics B
IB English
Single Variable (takes the BC Calc AP test)
Spanish V
AP Psychology (maybe)</p>

<p>Expected cumulative unweighted GPA: 3.45</p>

<p>so yeah, my grades were pretty terrible first two years. there are also a bunch of smaller electives and non-core classes i took that i didnt list. will stern be more willing to overlook my cumulative gpa if my junior and senior year grades are good?</p>

<p>SAT I - 2360 (760 on math.. ouch)
PSAT - 222 (qualified for national merit scholarship running)
SAT II Math IIC 750 (ouch again)
will be taking SAT II History, expecting 750+
maybe SAT II English</p>

<p>i'm also close friends with a recent stern MBA grad who will be writing me a recommendation. will this help? and my dad is also an NYU alumni</p>

<p>Extracurricular:
-hospital volunteer, all junior year
-volunteer at local underprivileged children's summer camp, 2 summers
-CTY civic leadership program, upcoming summer
-verbal commendation at a MUN conference
-internship at Merrill Lynch this summer and all senior year
-won a bunch of piano awards pre-9th grade, performed at carnegie hall twice. will nyu care?
-some random clubs</p>

<p>yeah, so EC really isnt a strong point for me. i'm hoping that my Merrill internship, high test scores and huge improvement junior/senior year will be enough to get me into stern.</p>

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<p>I think that your essay better contain a damn good explanation for the transition. You need some type of epiphany/turning point to catch their interest if you are to have a shot.</p>

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<p>Think you can retake SAT1 and ace the math section? Cuz if so, your standardized test scores put you at the 99th percentile, as you can probably guess. Stern isn't that elite, you'll most likely get in.</p>

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<p>emr: Well our school is composed of a few different academies, and I was accepted into the science academy. I applied to that one because its our oldest academy and its the most prestigious. But yeah, it didn't take long for me to realize that I hated everything to do with the sciences. I kind of accepted the fact that I was stuck with science the summer between soph and junior year.</p>

<p>clone22: I'm not really concerned about test scores, I'm just really worried about my complete lack of leadership positions and EC in general.</p>

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<p>can you guys explain how geniuses like yourself screw up on your grades?</p>

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<p>Lack of motivation and a lot of procrastination. And I'm definitely not a genius, but I like to think that I'm reasonably intelligent.</p>

<p>The other option I've been considering is to apply to CAS, major in economics and take some classes at Stern, and then try my luck with an internal transfer to Stern. Would this be the safer bet? or will I be better off applying straight to Stern?</p>

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<p>much much safer bet to apply to CAS then transfer to Stern. it's pretty easy--just as long as you don't take WTE the first semester--to get a ~3.9 and then transfer. It also allows you to bypass taking the second required writing class for Stern, which would be a major plus in many people's opinion.</p>

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<p>how can you get such grades with 2360 SAT score LOL? Doesn't make sense to me. Well, just try harder in school and you will be fine.</p>

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<p>When would I be able to transfer? After a semester, or after the full year?</p>

<p>And would I get into CAS relatively easily or is it still a slight reach?</p>

<p>And, last question, would it be better to apply to CAS ED or RD? I know without a doubt that I want to go to NYU, but I also need the colleges to see my first trimester (our school year is split into 3 trimesters) grades and to see that I've continued to improve. Would NYU look at any part of my transcript for senior year if I applied ED?</p>

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<p>Help with these questions, anyone?</p>

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<p>
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Stern isn't that elite, you'll most likely get in.

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<p>Although this is true to a certain extent, keep in mind that Stern (and NYU as a whole) keeps getting more selective each year.....this year, the acceptance rate at Stern was 14%, and will very likely be less this year.....chances wise, you're where you should be....you're not getting in for sure, but you have a fair shot</p>

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<p>um, that doesn't make sense on a number of levels, deadlysyphen</p>

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<li>stern doesn't accept many people internally. GPA isn't the only thing they consider, either. they look at SAT scores, and they'll hold you to higher scrutiny than freshman applicants.</li>
<li>WTE isn't the only thing people do poorly in. some people really excel in it. you don't know.</li>
<li>you still have to take business and its publics regardless. it's a required course for graduation.</li>
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<p>^ I'll second wallflower here. From everything I've heard, internal transfers into Stern are very difficult regardless of GPA and they prefer transfers from other schools.</p>

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<ol>
<li>aside from gpa, this person has decent stats, including SAT. this person cited "lack of motivation" as one of the reasons for his/her gpa and has shown an upward trend, and expects to continue the trend his/her senior year. this person may get rejected from Stern for a low GPA, but probably can get in CAS. if this person were to get a good GPA in CAS, this person has a good chance of getting in through internal transfer based on the other considered facors.</li>
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<p>I admit that I am using anecdotal evidence when I imply that all you need is a high gpa. MANY people I know that have high GPA's and show an interest in business--are taking business classes, have business experience .etc--have successfully transferred. a few people on cc that said they internally transferred have also cited really high GPA's.</p>

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<li><p>WTE is not the only class that people do poorly in, but it is the only class that I have heard of so far in which some (yes more than one) professors are unwilling to give more than a B+ to any, except maybe one, student. Some people do excel in it, but only those that have the opportunity to. and if this person really thinks that he/she can handle Stern, then he/she should be able to get a relatively good GPA in CAS MAP courses.</p></li>
<li><p>This last one came from an internal I know that asked an advisor. The advisor said that internals are not required to take it.</p></li>
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<p>I think you're probably a match (maybe reach) for Stern. The people I know who got in this year had kind of similar stats (probably lower SATS) except without the first two years of low GPA. But if you explain them in your essays well then they might overlook it. I heard colleges like to see growth or whatever in your transcript @_@; </p>

<p>I think if you apply to NYU, you should just directly apply to Stern. First because internal transfers are really difficult, so you might as well just go somewhere else for a year and save 50k. And if you are unsuccessful in transferring, then you're stuck at NYU CAS which isn't all that wonderful and a huge money drainage. Personally D: the lack of campus of NYU is a huge turnoff - stern might not even be worth it. </p>

<p>Oh and unless your school caps the number of colleges you can apply to (our school only lets us apply to 6 privates), you should just fill out the common app supplement for stern. Its REALLY short, with only 4 short answer questions, so it won't take a lot of time or anything. </p>

<p>Lol im like a leaky faucet @<em>@ but another suggestion. If you're really set on doing business (and attending a good undergrad b program) but you think your low gpa for high school will cause you to be rejected from prestigious 4 year programs such as the one at Stern, then it might be a good idea to apply to colleges with really good two year business programs (Berkeley Haas, UMich Ross). Acceptance into those programs are based mostly on your college gpa and performances for your first two years so basically you start on a clean slate. And you get 2 years to explore other options whereas if you attend Stern is business or transfer ></em>>;</p>

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<p>Thanks so much everyone, really appreciate the feedback. I'm gonna wait until senior year to make any type of final decision. If I do end up applying to NYU CAS, then I'll probably be majoring in economics with a minor in business. I'll also try to take as many classes at Stern as possible, so if it comes down to it, I'll be able to transfer more easily.</p>

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<p>similiar question- i have amazing business ec's..but i have a 3.2 GPA and im an international.. it wud be weird for me to apply to CAS because i want to tell them about my passion for business, rite? :S</p>

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<p>u can tell them about a passion for business, but a preference for economics and a preference for a more liberal-arts oriented education. Realistically, even though you're international, you have a hard chance getting into CAS with a 3.2, unless you have an even more extreme upward trend than uyn.</p>