<p>i like how you guys resurrected a thread from the depths of time.</p>
<p>I think ranking schools (especially based on your criminally outdated data - it is at least 3 years old) is BULL.</p>
<p>Take a look at your own rankings:</p>
<p>3)Phillips Andover SAT=2,008 SSAT=93% Acceptance=20% Population=1,096</p>
<p>4)Hotchkiss SAT= 2,013 SSAT=92% Acceptance=20% Population=574</p>
<p>You ranked Hotchkiss below Andover despite Hotchkiss' Higher Sat score, higher endowment per student, and only a single point lower on the ssat and more AP courses. Everything else you mentioned is basically the same between all the schools. And you give no weighting to the different categories. </p>
<p>How does that work ? It seems fishy to me ...</p>
<p>It seems your rankings are based on personal preference instead of a professional formula. There is a reason no one does high school rankings - because they are ********. </p>
<p>And what is with this Harkness BS .. ALLL THESE SCHOOLS HAVE HARKNESS GET THAT THROUGH YOUR THICK SKULL. Exeter just markets it. Harkness himself was actually a SPS grad ....</p>
<p>You are just in bed with Exeter and twist you "data" to fit your predetermined notions. I am going to dub people like you exwhores.</p>
<p>You obviously don't know what the hell you are talking about....</p>
<p>its not endownment per student, its overall endownment to buy better equiptment... andover has almost a billion and so does exeter.. groton has almost no sports team, but are so academically focused.... and ofcourse hotckiss is below it, some 500 student school that has good academics but is more focused on sending kids to Juilliard than Harvard. They are focused more in performing arts, then there science program. and the matriculation from andover is just a bit better.</p>
<p>and yeh every school has a few round table programs, but Exeter has more, and the biggest faculty with the highest educated people. also there average SAT's blow everyones away. They have the most endownment buy 100 or 50 million. and there matriculation is just incredible. out of a class of like 210 or something, they sent 22 to harvard... hotchkiss has no where near 10% of there kids going to Harvard or any schools equal like princeton or yale.. they do have alot of kids going there, but nothing like 10%</p>
<p>We30 ... You just proved that you are an idiot. Endowment per student is what is important you fool. If you need to buy equipment for 50 students and you have 100 million dollars you can get more equipment than a school with 100 students and 120 million dollars because you have less students to buy the equipment for. Plus there average SAt is ABOVE Andover's look at you OWN data ! 2013 is bigger than 2008 DUH ! That not only proves that your ratings are totally off but also that you cannot count ! And what data are you using to say that Andover has a better science program ?? I would argue very differently Hotchkiss for instance is one of only 3 schools in the world to have a DNA sequencer the others being Exeter and some day school. The case could certainly be made that Hotchkiss has a better science program but I am not going to make that claim.</p>
<p>WHAT PROOF DO YOU HAVE FOR YOUR CLAIMS !! WHAT DO YOU BASE YOUR CLAIMS LIKE THAT ON. For instance your stupid claim "every school has round tables but Exeter has more" what PROOF do you have for that. Exeter has the "biggest faculty with the highest educated people" WHAT PROOF DO YOU HAVE FOR THAT ALL THE TOP SCHOOLS HAVE A HIGHLY EDUCATED FACULTY.</p>
<p>And if you go by matriculation alone Milton, SPS, Deerfield, would ALL be higher than Exeter and Andover. Futhermore your claim that Hotchkiss is more arts focused and focused on sending schools to julliard is RETARDED. Hotchkiss has not sent a kid to Julliard in AGES. They are NOT more focused on Julliard. And they do send a large number of students to the ivies but as a smaller school students that got into Harvard, Yale Princeton etc CHOOSE to go to other smaller LACS like Williams, Amherst, Middlebury, etc. Its personal choice. That proves NOTHING about the schools. And to answer your stupid statement the assistant dean of admission from Princeton came here and told us that they admit around 12 students a year (for the past few years) which is around 10% of the class was accepted to Princeton. But out of those students I am sure some went to LACS. Plus Hotchkiss has won the yale Physics Olympiad time and time again including the last one so the case can be made that the physics field is also better. </p>
<p>WHAT DATA DO YOU HAVE TO BACK UP YOUR POSITION ! YOU MAKE WIDE RANGING BULL CLAIMS WITHOUT DATA TO BACK IT UP AND IT MAKES YOU LOOK FOOLISH. You are a Little kid trying to influence parents and students decisions that you obviously dont know what you are talking about. </p>
<p>Students at hotchkiss are more interested in an actual education not just a name. They are not as thick and prestige driven as you - who i bet is not even at Exeter and nor will you get into Exeter with your attitude and weak research skills and terrible logic. You are just making your data fit what you want to prove which is deceiving. NO ONE TAKE HIS RANKINGS SERIOUSLY THEY ARE BULL. Get a life mate, and a brain while you are at it. Stop posting on this wall and embarrassing yourself. No one takes your rankings seriously. Go take your gestapo like propaganda somewhere else. We don't have time for your crap rankings you obviously know nothing about prep schools so don't post until you actually know what you are talking about. Your obvious bias and poor research actually are just so apparant for everyone to see. For your sake I hope you don't do research like this or you will fall over and die at prep school (if you get in) and Harvard. And I know a thing or two about Harvard for your information. Stuyvesant sends 60 kids to Harvard or so every year. At Harvard they have the largest presence.</p>
<p>Now that proves ABSOLUTELY NOTHING about Stuy, sure some people go to Harvard that does not make it 3X better than Exeter. You cannot numerically rank schools like that when you obviously don't know HOW to do that. For Gods sake i fear for the American education system that produces kids like you.</p>
<p>He is not worth it in my opinion. people would have ignored him anyways ...</p>
<p>Just for your information, Exeter sent 40 kids to Harvard between 2006-2008 that is 13.3 kids a year which is 6% precisely the same percentage as Hotchkiss kids admitted to Princeton ( crimson said according to the assistant Dean of Admissions). </p>
<p>The fact is Hotchkiss Exeter Andover Deerfield Groton MIlton SPS Middlesex are all equal schools. Distinguishing between them is nonsensical. Exeter is NOT superior to Hotchkiss, Nor is Hotchkiss Superior to Andover, nor is Adover superior to Groton etc. </p>
<p>The way you rank these school is your personal preference. Not fact.</p>
<p>I didn't decide these rankings, i found them online and felt that they seemed reasonable because they definately had the top schools and they were based on 11 different catergores, so i had the thought that it was reasonable. </p>
<p>Just a thought for you Crimson, if I got a perfect score on my math section, then how can you tell me that i cannot add? Are you not being a hipocrit when you say do not make accusations without data to back it up? Because it just seems to me that you said I could not add even tough I had a perfect score, none omitted, none wrong, on the SSAT's and i scored a 610 on the SAT math section at the beginning of 8th grade. I find it humorous that you call me a fool for not backing up my statements with facts, yet you call me a fool and yet you cant prove it. I don't neccesarily believe the rankings order, but I believe half of the people postig here are either sons or daughters of Hotchkiss alumni or some rich snotty kid who was told by his parents that Hotchkiss is the best. I prefer Exeter because just over 100 kids in the grade doesn't strike me as suitable for myself. I was told that Hotchkiss was more of a performing arts oriented. And I do agree that the endownment per kid is important, but just overall having more money whether Exeter had 547 kids or 1,096, I believe they still would of built that incredible new science building and I like the campus and the area more. Hotckiss just isn't really close to a major city like Boston or New York. I never said that those rankings were definately right, and I believe Exeter is the best followed by Andover and I don't blame you if you do not agree with my opinion, but you cannot tell people that there opinion is just wrong and that theres is right. On the planet I live on, its called rudeness and if you are planning to go to Hotchkiss, you better check yourself again. Also, there was more Exeter kids on Ivy hockey teams than Hotchkiss and I am more interested in hockey, considering I was asked to go to the top 2 hockey prep schools in the country and I am an OHL prospect. Thanks for your opinion though, Crimson 14</p>
<p>we30: how do you think you did on your essays?</p>
<p>Just a thought for you Crimson, if I got a perfect score on my math section, then how can you tell me that i cannot add? Are you not being a hipocrit when you say do not make accusations without data to back it up? Because it just seems to me that you said I could not add even tough I had a perfect score, none omitted, none wrong, on the SSAT's and i scored a 610 on the SAT math section at the beginning of 8th grade.</p>
<p>^ this was the cutest quote i ever saw on cc. like, EVER. we aren't trying to hammer down on your math credentials we30, i think crimson was just saying hotchkiss was above exeter in terms of scores, like the sat where hotchkiss has a few more points than exeter. then again, if it fits you it fits you. and really, do stats matter so much people need to debate over it..</p>
<p>you don't need to brag about your amazing hockey skills here though, put that in a chances thread because on my planet that is slightly arrogant.</p>
<p>I think that crimson's attack was unwarranted (solely because he swore at you - everything he said was correct though), though he did point out, justifiably I believe some holes in the rankings you provided. I think that your characterization of "half of the people posting here are either sons or daughters of Hotchkiss alumni or some rich snotty kid who was told by his parents that Hotchkiss is the best." is unwarranted and unfounded and furthermore based on ignorance. </p>
<p>There are many Hotchkiss fans, just like all the other schools who are completely normal people and believe Hotchkiss is the "best" as you put it for their own personal reasons. That is why some people who get into both Hotchkiss and Exeter choose Hotchkiss over Exeter and vice versa - based on PERSONAL preference. Furthermore Hotchkiss IS close to new york - around an hour away furthermore Hotchkiss has access to a train station which is relatively close to the school. Now if you prefer Exeter over Hotchkiss who am I to dispute that ? Its your personal preference. What I think Crimson was objecting you was you stating that Exeter was better and miss-portraying Hotchkiss as an "arts focused school" seemingly implying that it was not active academically or in scientific pursuit which is categorically false. And saying that its "SAT scores were lower" than Andover's when the facts clearly show that is not true. </p>
<p>Everyone is entitled to their own personal opinion and you are to yours but what you should NOT do is make statements like you did that seemed to imply that this school is certainly better than another without providing supporting evidence. As a Hotchkiss student I would like to say the Crimson is an exception, his critique may have been more or less accurate but he was as you said angry and rude. So though you can explain why you believe Exeter is a better fit for you, I think your attempt to suggest its a better fit for everyone else is equally rude. Furthermore your tirade about showing how smart you are at Math is unnecessary and officious - you attempt to give yourself authority through your scores when they do not give you any greater credibility. So have fun, I hope you do get into Exeter and have fun there. But trying to Rank these schools with iffy data is not a useful pursuit in the least. This forum and this type of ranking system died a long time ago for good reason. Don't try to resurrect dead meat. And do your research instead of spreading false information about Hotchkiss. You must also be careful not to show of as you did, it adds nothing to your argument and in fact like west coast points out makes you seem childish.</p>
<p>And on the point that both Crimson and West Coast pointed out, all Crimson was saying is that You said Andover has a Higher SAT score than Hotchkiss which is CLEARLY false based on YOUR data. Now if you cannot see that simple numerical data then perhaps the standards on the SAT really have dropped, because the last time I checked 2013 is higher than 2008 ... that was all Crimson was pointing out.So your entire tirade about being the next Steven Hawking means little as the facts are starkly clear. Hotchkiss has a higher SAT score. You seem to be spewing a lot of unsubstantiated "facts" like Exeter has more people on ivy teams than Hotchkiss. What Crimson was saying is can you provide evidence for your claims ? Where did you see that information ? furthermore having people playing in the ivy does not mean a school has a better Hockey team because Harvard (God bless the CRIMSON) is not the best team out there. If you told me that Exeter has more players in the NHL then I would be more impressed. Or Exeter has won more NE championships in Hockey. Where are you facts mate ? (Or at least provide fats that can be easily substantiated like the number of new england championships Exeter won)/</p>
<p>100th post kaf (;</p>
<p>ha ha yay ! And I mentioned Harvard maybe that is a sign !! lol (;</p>
<p>How are things going at Citi?</p>
<p>"On the planet I live on, its called rudeness"</p>
<p>playing the inter-galactic diversity card...competition at Ex must really be tough...jk,jk,jk :)</p>
<p>Oh by the way I got 850 on my ssat and a 950 on my Sat in 6th grade! so HA ! You aint got nothing on me (;</p>
<p>what?? only an 850? I got 1000 on the SSAT and 1200 on the SAT in KINDERGARDEN. beat that! :P</p>
<p>very funny hahah, im just a math wiz though, i can bearly read a book lol... i got 610 on math, but only 500's on reading and writing ='/ lmao</p>
<p>and i am still very confused... crimson was yelling at me for my math skills that 2013 is higher than 2008.... i understand that, but what im confused about is i sed Andover is higher ranked, not higher in average SAT's... the school was based on 11 catergories, and I sed look, Andover is higher and then he ranted on about how Im stupid to think that 2008 is higher then 2013... i never mentioned anything about SAT scores specifically, i just sed about overall. and thank you for your words of wisdom 'Kafkareborn'</p>
<p>seroiusly, look back, when did i say Andovers SAT scores are higher than hotckiss.... or where did i say 2008 is higher than 2013.</p>