Chances for admissions to a classical archaeology program

<p>Hello. I'm a college junior majoring in classical archaeology. I have a 3.73 GPA and three more semesters to get it (hopefully) to a 3.75-3.8. I will have 3 years of ancient Greek and 2 years of Latin at the time of graduation. I will have 2 years of German, proficiency in Italian and fluency in modern Greek. I have done two internships: one at a historic house, and another at the linguistics department of a media company. (They are both pretty irrelevant to archaeology.) I will be going abroad this summer for three months and doing an honors thesis in the fall. </p>

<p>I haven't started studying for the GREs, but with preparation I expect to do slightly above average at least, since I did really well on the SATs without much preparation.</p>

<p>My question is, what are the chances of getting into a graduate program with this background? I go to the CUNY Honors College at Hunter, which is an honors program in a public university. All my professors went to prestigious schools as undergrads and I feel really self-conscious about my undergrad education/my school's reputation (even though Hunter's Classics program has been AMAZING so far.) Others who have graduated from Hunter before me have gotten into schools like UPenn and UC Berkeley, but they had 4.0s!!!</p>

<p>I don't need to go to an Ivy League school, but I want to be able to pursue archaeology as a career. I was thinking about NYU or University of Buffalo.</p>

<p>A few thoughts: </p>

<p>Firstly, don’t worry about your GPA-- A 3.7-3.8 is TOTALLY fine. Seriously. </p>

<p>Secondly, don’t worry much about coming from a less prestigious program. The fact that your school has placed students into strong grad schools is a good sign. However, do know that most of your peers in grad school will be coming from more elite places.</p>

<p>Your modern languages are great, but having only three years of one ancient language and two of the other will put you at a disadvantage. Ideally, you want to have four years of one and three of the other. And frankly, the more you have before you start, the better. If your languages are weak, it is going to hold you back and cause a ton of stress.</p>

<p>Additionally, you don’t mention anything about fieldwork, but you really need to do some, either in Europe or in the States, before you start a PhD. Fieldwork can be grueling and often unpleasant, and you need to make sure that you actually like doing the work of archaeology! Additionally, grad schools expect that you come in with some field experience. Browse the bios of students posted on most PhD program websites, and see the type of work students were involved in during their undergrad years. Fieldwork in Europe can be expensive, but there are grants and fellowships that you can apply for. And, if that’s not possible, there are many field projects in the states that are considerably more affordable, and still let you get your hands dirty.</p>

<p>If you want to pursue archaeology as a career, you really have to get your PhD from a good program. And, honestly, all of the ‘good’ programs are really competitive-- the ones that aren’t, aren’t a good bet. </p>

<p>Furthermore, in archaeology, ‘Ivy League’ doesn’t really mean anything. Yes, Brown and Penn have strong programs, but Columbia and Yale and Princeton (for straight archaeology)-- not so much. And, just to cover the other programs you discussed, NYU doesn’t really have an archaeology PhD at all-- they have IFA (art history) and ISAW-- both of which are (or seem to be, in the case of ISAW, which is really new) very competitive, while Buffalo is a fine place, but as far as I know, funding can be hard to come by there, which is bad. You should absolutely not do a PhD at any program that doesn’t fully fund you. </p>

<p>So, you need to figure out what programs are strong for your set of interests (either geographically, temporally or whatever), and then consider whether you have the preparation (particularly in languages and fieldwork) to get in. </p>

<p>One option worth considering is getting a MA from a strong feeder program: FSU and Arizona both have funded or partially-funded archaeology MA programs that send many students on to top PhD programs, and there are more options for MAs in classics, rather than archaeology (which would be a great way to get your languages up to speed, as well). A feeder MA program might be a good bet, also, to give yourself some time to get fieldwork experience, and to figure out where exactly your interests lie. If you look through the bios of students at programs strong in your chosen interest, you’ll likely see that many received MAs before beginning in the PhD program, or did post bac years (though post bacs can be expensive). </p>

<p>But, most of all, you should trust your faculty and advisors, as they know your work directly and can give you the best advice about how to proceed. Good luck!</p>

<p>Hello and thank you for your detailed reply! I am in the process of applying to field schools for this summer. Do you think one summer of fieldwork will be enough?</p>

<p>I am upset that my ancient languages are going to hold me back but I am prepared to work hard in graduate school to catch up to my peers - there is really nothing else I can do about it unless I stay an extra year at Hunter to study Greek/Latin. </p>

<p>Also, do you know if UPenn offers a stand-alone MA in classical archaeology? The website mentions the program is tailored for someone pursuing a PhD but doesn’t specifically say if you can apply for just an MA.</p>

<p>It’s no problem-- I’m a PhD student currently in an Classics-ish department, and I did a lot of my research when I was applying several years ago online, so I see it as repaying that debt. </p>

<p>One summer of fieldwork shouldn’t hold you back, especially if you express plans to work in the field the summer after graduation as well. Fieldwork can be a good opportunity to meet people as well, particularly grad students at various places (depending on the size of your field school). This can give you a chance to talk to current students, who are the best sources of information about their own schools. Along those lines, it is worth the effort to use whatever network you have from your undergrad (students who have applied recently, or have gone on the PhDs- everyone loves to help students from their own undergrad schools) to gather info. I did this also when I was applying, and still keep in touch with a few of those people. </p>

<p>About languages-- I think that your preparation is right on the cusp-- 4 years of one/ 3 of the other would be stronger, but as you say, the only remedy for that is time. Many people apply to both MA and PhD programs in the same year, which I think is a good idea for everyone (PhDs in Classics-ish things are just so competitive), and this might be something for you to think about. About Penn specifically, my understanding is that none of the really ‘big’ archaeology programs (Brown, Michigan, Penn, Berkeley, Stanford etc.) offer terminal MAs-- and I’m pretty positive that even if it were possible to do a terminal MA at one of those places, it wouldn’t be possible to get funding for it, because they save their funding for the PhD students. </p>

<p>MA programs that I’m familiar with that offer funding are (this is an incomplete list…)
UGA
FSU
Arizona
Tufts
Vanderbilt</p>

<p>Check out [The</a> Classical Journal](<a href=“Golden Tiger Casino | $1500 Bonus | United States 2022”>http://classicaljournal.org/study_classics.php) for more places. It is a good resource to browse through (though a bit out of date).</p>