Chances for being admitted to Columbia:

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<p>Starting with my AP Tests,</p>

<p>AP Biology-> 5
AP Calculus AB-> 5
AP Calculus BC-> 5
AP European History-> 5
AP Physics-> 5
AP Statistics-> 5
AP US History-> 5
Summary: 7/7 5's</p>

<p>The ACT Score: 35</p>

<p>The SAT I Score: 2320
Math: 800
Reading: 770
Writing: 750</p>

<p>PSAT: 231
NMSF</p>

<p>The SAT II Scores
Math: 800
Literature: 780
Physics: 790</p>

<p>Thinking of declaring pre-law</p>

<p>As of Right now, my class rank is unkown, but I'm in the top 3% of my class of 650 individuals.
Cumulative Unweighted GPA: 3.75
Without Freshmen Year: 3.933</p>

<p>Unsure of weighted, class rank is weighted though.</p>

<p>Evident upward curve of GPA over the course of my highschool education, low to high. I understand that certain colleges disregard your freshmen year- but does this mean they recalculate your GPA of the last 3 years of highschool? If my comprehension is correct, this would place my GPA unweighted much higher, I'd estimate: 3.933</p>

<p>Extracirriculars:
*Four years of Varsity Lincoln Douglas Debate, attending Stanford Debate camp over the summer, qualifying to Nationals of Debate in my junior year Captain of Debate Team
*Work experience over the summer at Best-Buy
*100+ Hours of Volunteering at a local hospital
(Unsure as of now, I'd estimate 50+) Hours of Community Service
*member of National Honors Society
*member of Philosophy Club
*member of Spanish Language Club
*member of Medicial Club
*member of Community Service Club
*Tutor for 4th grade students in various subjects for two years.
*Tutor for 9th,10th,11th grade students for Algebra II, Trig, Algebra I, Geometry, and Calculus for one year
*Varsity Tennis Player for two years(Love to play on a Varsity Team at any of these universities) Possible Candidate for Captain
*Took Abstract Algebra Course over the summer at a university
*Internship at a hospital(not sure if this will help my chances for pre-law, but meh.)</p>

<p>I also don't think it would be in my best interest to apply EA or ED because my senior year could help my GPA further, along with retaking ACT and SAT.</p>

<p>So Here is my question: With my relatively low cumulative unweighted GPA with freshmen year included, do I stand a chance even with my SAT ACT AP getting accepted to Columbia? And if so, about what chance, if not, why not?</p>

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<p>Apply ED/EA anyway. Your GPA is fine. It will definitely help to apply early. An extra semester of senior grades is not going to help significantly--colleges will see first semester anyway if you apply early. You have a great chance. And WHAT THE HELL why would you retake the SAT/ACT?!?!?!</p>

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<p>Cause I was trying to compensate for my pitiful GPA :P
I thought I could improve my SATII scores- but I'm really anxious to visit Columbia...
So you think I'm a definate candidate of Columbia?</p>

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Thinking of declaring pre-law

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<p>Think again.</p>

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<p>I agree - I don't really see any reason to retake the SAT or ACT. Those scores are both very good. I would go ahead and do the ED thing though to help "seal the deal" just in case. You're a strong candidate, but going ED may just be enough to make you one of the elite 10% for sure.</p>

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<p>Alright, ED it is then :)... but... why "think again?" :( Am I Missing something?</p>

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<p>because like 80% of people enter a school like columbia thinking they're going to go into law or medicine, and you're costing yourself your originality if you just follow the herd. everyone learns eventually, take a chance and learn it early. you don't declare pre-anything at columbia, anyway. take the classes you have to take, take the classes you want to take, and think about law school once you're a senior. nobody in the law school admissions business thinks it necessary for freshmen to think about such things.</p>

<p>-Steve</p>

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<p>I see, I'll definately remember that, thanks Steve.
So, my chances at Columbia are good then? I'm really excited if so-
any other comments? :) keep 'em coming lol...</p>

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<p>OMG you DEFINITELY need to improve your SAT scores! Otherwise I'd say automatic rejection...
and yeah 3.75 is SO AWFUL!! Just kidding!! If you're in the top 3% i think that's enough. at my school to be top 3% you have to have like a 4.7 W and probably 4.0 UW (ugh)
do you think you can play tennis there?</p>

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<p>3% of 650 is about #20 and below, and my weighted is easily over 4, and class rank is weighted, so yeah, I'm top 3%.</p>

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<p>Why do you even need to ask?</p>

<p>The only reason to say that you wouldn't get in is that it's basically impossible to predict who will get in at the top tier schools.</p>

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<p>yeah, unless you're a development case, no person is ever over 80% to get in. there's too much randomness involved. but based on the people i knew at columbia, you're probably north of 60%.</p>