Chances for ED?

<p>Hi...I'm going to apply to Dartmouth ED and I was wondering what my chances are. Does anyone know what the SAT average is for the early pool?</p>

<p>White female from competitive public high school in Westchester, New York</p>

<p>GPA: 4.00 - Most rigorous courseload
SAT I: 670 Math, 720 Critical Reading, 790 Writing (11 Essay)
SAT IIs: 720 Biology, 710 Math IIc, 790 U.S. History
APs: 5 European History, 5 U.S. History, 5 AB Calc, 5 Biology</p>

<p>Clubs:
- Juggling Club (10th-12th)
- Community Service Club - (9th-12th)
- Scholarship Fund - Student Rep. (11th-12th)
- Newspaper - Contributor (9th-10th), Copy Editor (11th) Co-Sports Editor (12th)
- Selected to write for the local newspaper's sport section next year (12th)
- Peer Leadership (selective program for upperclassmen) -11th/12th - co-chair 12th
- Athletes Helping Athletes - Leadership program for varsity athletes</p>

<p>Field Hockey
- JV - 9th grade
- Varsity - 10th-12th, Captain 12th</p>

<p>Lacrosse
- JV - 9th grade
- Varsity - 10th-12th, Captain 12th</p>

<p>Work - Jobs at a lacrosse store and as a summer counselor</p>

<p>Spent two summers in Costa Rica and the Dominican Republic doing community service projects and learning about the culture.</p>

<p>Awards:
- Field Hockey All-League Honorable Mention (11th)
- NASA Watching Earth Change Honorable Mention (10th)
- Bryn Mawr Book Award</p>

<p>I'm interested in majoring in history. Other interests include Spanish/Latin American studies and biology.
Any comments would be greatly appreciated. Thanks.</p>

<p>The average SAT score at Dartmouth this year was 1470. That includes the almost 50% of hooked candidates, athletes, URMs, legacies and dev candidates that don't need to be at the average. Everyone non hooked needs to be above.. If you can get recruited for field hockey or lacrosse, you're in. If not, you have little chance. The early pool is largely comprised of the hooked: recruited athletes, legacies and an ever increasing number of URMs. There is no real advantage ED if you're not hooked. Also, Dartmouth says they are not looking at writing scores this year.</p>

<p>does that include the act writing score?</p>

<p>Actually, I learned today it was 1480. No, writing needs to be another 750ish,</p>

<p>any other thoughts?</p>

<p>Suze, would you please define what is "hooked"?</p>

<p>Hooked: recruited athlete, URM, legacy, rich and/or famous,</p>

<p>ok. thanks suze =p</p>

<p>What's URM stand for?</p>

<p>Under-Represented Minorities</p>

<p>Would Filipino-American count as an URM? I hate being lumped into the Asian group, because we really aren't asian. I know that chinese people aren't a URM. I'm also something like 4% Blackfoot Indian, but I think I need 8% to be considered a member of my tribe. Its too bad, solely because being American Indian is not unlike a ticket to college (coupled with my stats) these days.</p>

<p>Filipino-Americans are considered URMs....You guys are more of pacific islanders than Asians</p>

<p>Most Filipinos are ethnically/racially Asians, not Pacific Islanders.</p>

<p>But discussing whether they are more Asian or Pacific Islander, so as to figure out URM-status, is really stupid.</p>

<p>There are only three URM groups that are given extra points at the elite colleges: blacks, hispanics and native americans.</p>

<p>Hi Suze,</p>

<p>Although I understand what you meant(and I still have love for you:)) please don't use points as some people may misunderstand (I, know semantics and part of the UMich case was because points were being given). </p>

<p>Yes, being black, hispanic and native american does give you a boost in the admissions process because these students are underpreresented and are in small numbers at many of the elite colleges.</p>

<p>last year The Dartmouth ran a series of articles examining higher education admissions in the wake of last year's University of Michigan Supreme Court decisions. </p>

<p>Happy reading</p>

<p>**In admissions, many get 'special' attention **</p>

<p><a href="http://www.thedartmouth.com/article.php?aid=2004051301040&sheadline=boost%20in%20admissions&sauthor=&stext=%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://www.thedartmouth.com/article.php?aid=2004051301040&sheadline=boost%20in%20admissions&sauthor=&stext=&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p>

<p>*** For legacies, age-old perks in admissions are still in swing ***</p>

<p><a href="http://www.thedartmouth.com/article.php?aid=2004051001040%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://www.thedartmouth.com/article.php?aid=2004051001040&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p>

<p>Admittance rates differ drastically by race for Class of 2008</p>

<p><a href="http://www.thedartmouth.com/article.php?aid=2004051101030%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://www.thedartmouth.com/article.php?aid=2004051101030&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p>

<p>Top high schools, public or private, place grads well</p>

<p><a href="http://www.thedartmouth.com/article.php?aid=2004051201030%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://www.thedartmouth.com/article.php?aid=2004051201030&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p>

<p>*** Minority summer programs get axe after Michigan rulings***
<a href="http://www.thedartmouth.com/article.php?aid=2004050701030%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://www.thedartmouth.com/article.php?aid=2004050701030&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p>

<p>Sybbie, trust me, I know that even with great scores being a URM does not make you a shoo in. Darn!!!!!!! I'm just hoping URM and legacy....</p>

<p>Do my chances change with my new SAT score? Just wondering...
710 M, 760 CR, 790 W?? Any thoughts appreciated as always.</p>