<p>So, what is the percentage of admitted hispanics to Harvard?</p>
<p>and stats do you expect from a mexican in order to be able to get into harvard?</p>
<p>Well, to the best of my knowledge, you won't find that kind of information unless you broke into the admissions office. </p>
<p>Also, what do you mean precisely? "hispanic" or "mexican"? A Hispanic in the college admissions process is defined as someone who comes from or is a descenant of immigrants from any latin american country. Illegal/student visa Mexicans would be considered internationals, while residents would be considered "Hispanics."</p>
<p>In answer to your question, traditionally Hispanics, which may identify with any nationality except Spain and Portugal are admitted with lower scores on the argument that the test is biased. So, a 1100 has usually been enough. However, the number of "Hispanic" applicants to Harvard this year rose by 15.5%. Thus, in the past, they pretty much just took every Hispanic that applied but now with the new financial aid, the results are unpredictable. It could well be a possibility that Harvard will admit most of these Hispanics in hopes of diversifying the student body and reject quilified whites and asians, but it's very doubtful. </p>
<p>Another thing, high-scoring Hispanics don't necessarily get in because they may come across as being detached and seeming more "white" than Hispanic, which would technically destroy the purpose of diversity because the applicant detests his or her ethnic group (this has been known to happen.) So basically, some Hispanics may not be given preferential treatment at all because they're white as white can be. </p>
<p>Hope that helps.</p>
<p>The lowest SAT score that typically gets in is a 1200. Few students get in with such scores, and presumably such students fall into categories such as : kids of major donors (i.e. billionaires kids), kids of extremely prominent alumni or faculty, kids who have world class athletic, artistic, musical, etc. talent, kids who have overcome major hardships and -- some URMs.</p>
<p>Keep in mind, though, that there are plenty of URMs, including Mexicans and Mexican-Americans who have very high stats. In addition, Harvard is not so desperate for URMs that any URM who makes a certain qualifying score gets in. I have seen URMs with SATs in the 1300 and 1400 be rejected by Ivies. I even saw an extremely underrepresented minority with good sports, excellent curriculum, an SAT around 1450, and a national standing in an academic EC get rejected by Harvard.</p>
<p>Regardless of race or ethnicity, one needs more than stats to get into a place like Harvard, and even if one appears to have everything going for oneself, one still might get a rejection.</p>
<p>"traditionally Hispanics, which may identify with any nationality except Spain and Portugal"</p>
<p>-and why not?? hispanic is one of spanish decent.... latinos would not be hispanic without their Spanish heritage.</p>
<p>I completely agree</p>
<p>Uh, no. </p>
<p>Main Entry:Hispanic
Pronunciation:hi-*spa-nik
Function:adjective
Etymology:Latin hispanicus, from Hispania Iberian Peninsula, Spain
Date:circa 1889</p>
<p>: of, relating to, or being a person of Latin American descent living in the U.S.; especially : one of Cuban, Mexican, or Puerto Rican origin</p>
<p>The word may have a Spanish source, but the Spanish people themselves aren't any different from the Anglo-Saxons. Go to provinces near France, you'll be awe-struck at the number blond, blue-eyed, pink people. But even then, realize that "Hispanic" refers to geography, not ethnic group.</p>
<p>So, if I were mexican living in the us, with a 3.96UW GPA, IB diploma, 1500+ SAT, and varsity sports, would I get in? and not to mention like 200+ hours of community service.</p>
<p>If you had applied last year, yes. </p>
<p>This year and for the rest of Harvard history, probably not.</p>
<p>MzLover3, you are seriously underestimating the abilities of minorities, specifically Hispanics/Latinos, here at Harvard. The majority of my friends here are Hispanic or Latino, and honestly I don't think any of them got less than a 1400 on their SAT. There are plenty of highly intelligent minorities, who are not white washed, who went to public schools in minority communities, and successfully achieved high scores. I assure you that Harvard <em>has not</em> taken every Hispanic or Latino who has applied in the past. I don't mean to sound b*tchy (can I say that here? lol) but your post really irritated me, because as a minority here it seems that you are suggesting minorities' abilities are not on par with non-minority students. As far as high scoring minorities not being admitted because they are white washed and don't add to campus diversity: students are not admitted because of their race or ethnicity. They are admitted because they can succeed here. Harvard is a corporation as well as an educational institution; they want people who will graduate, succeed in life, and donate money so that the institution and corporation will continue to exist in the future. Do you seriously think that people who are inferior or incapable of succeeding are going to be admitted? </p>
<p>As far as the Spanish = white/Latino debate, there are Spanish from Spain students here, who are active in various Latino groups. Likewise, there are Spanish people, and Latin American descendants, who aren't active. Being in a group doesn't make you a certain culture, but I just wanted to put out there that several of my friends are light skinned, light haired, Spanish people who identify as Latino.</p>
<p>thank you EAS... finally: someone with sense!</p>
<p>Asians are the master race; all other races are subhuman in the realm of academia(except for eastern Europeans...). Once everyone admits that, we'll be fine. LOL</p>
<p>"....(except for eastern Europeans...)"</p>
<p>I do believe you meant WESTERN, Dr. Spencer.</p>
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<p>Are you going to respond to the definition of Hispanic, as posted by MzLover3?</p>
<p>I'm sorry.. I know what I am and a dictionary cannot define me, my culture or my ancestors' history. I do not feel the need to respond to a technical definition of a nationality or race-- anyone that is hispanic knows it. we have the same beautiful language and similar traditions that I love. We are spanish.</p>
<p>Just like Americans are British, right?</p>
<p>And, by the way, you don't get to define words. It's fine if you consider yourself Spanish, but that's not what Hispanic means.</p>
<p>do you really want to start something? i'm more spanish than most people in this country are, and hispanic, as we've all learned, means someone from a spanish speaking country (roots in the iberian peninsula-- hey, that's spain!). hate to break it to ya, but if Spain had not come to the new world, history would be completely different and maybe your ass wouldnt be in this lovely country (i'm assuming you're american). ALSO.... if the spaniards had not mixed with the natives of south america... those natives would still be native american and would still have their cultures and languages-- they would have NOTHING spanish in them: hence, they would not be hispanic: they would be NATIVE AMERICANS-- indigenous people. but asnyway, I think you're just bored and enjoy this discussion. if it's not too personal (or you're ashamed), may I ask what race/nationality you are??</p>
<p>Oh what the hell. I just looked up the term "Hispanic" on dictionary.com, and I got this:</p>
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<ol>
<li>Of or relating to Spain or Spanish-speaking Latin America.</li>
<li>Of or relating to a Spanish-speaking people or culture.</li>
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<p>n.</p>
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<li>A Spanish-speaking person.</li>
<li>A U.S. citizen or resident of Latin-American or Spanish descent.
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<p>Oops. I guess you're right.</p>
<p>I don't want to give out any information about myself, mainly because I don't want any of the lamers from this board to recognize me.</p>
<p>BTW, what you said was dead on. I don't actually care about the discussion. I was bored and trying to get you riled up.</p>
<p>thank you. at least you admit it. we are now cool :)</p>
<p>I still think people are taking advantage of the definition of Hispanic because as we all know, SPANIARDS-as in people from spain, are as white as they come, so it would seem illogical to me to give them any, however slight, tips in admission over whites and asians. To do so would require them to also make whites specify whether they are french,spanish, mixed, itlaian etc. So I do think that purely Spanish people who are putting themselves down as minorities might be taking advantage of the system...</p>