Chances forrr LSM (Life Sciences and Management)

<p>[ b]Objective:[ /b][ list]
[ *] SAT I (breakdown): 800M/720CR/800W 12 Essay
[ *] ACT: might take in September
[ *] SAT II: 800 Math II, 800 Bio-M, 790 Chem
[ *] Unweighted GPA (out of 4.0): 4.0 UW/4.7465W
[ *] Rank (percentile if rank is unavailable)nly released up to top 5%
[ *] AP (place score in parenthesis): Micro (5), Macro (5), Biology (5), Chemistry (5), Eng Lang and Comp (5), APUSH (5), Statistics (5), Calc BC (5)
[ *] IB (place score in parenthesis):none
[ *] Senior Year Course Load: AP CompSci, AP Spanish, AP Literature, AP Psychology, Honors Advanced Math Concepts, AP Physics B. ALSO, taking a math course from Princeton and part of Columbia's Science Honor's Program (pretty prestigious)
[ *] Major Awards (USAMO, Intel etc.): NMSQT Commended, National AP Scholar</p>

<p>[ /list][ b]Subjective:[ /b][ list]
[ *] Extracurriculars (place leadership in parenthesis): soccer (3 years, 1 year captain), Mathletes team (captain), Chess team (1st seat, captain, treasurer, 4 years), FBLA (placed 6th in nation last year for Business Calculations), Model UN, Fed Challenge (captain)
[ *] Job/Work Experience: Internship at UMDNJ (research), published several papers, National Honor Society, Spanish Honor Society
[ *] Volunteer/Community service: Robert Wood Johnson Hospital, First Aid & Rescue, Rockathon (fundraise for different causes)
[ *] Essays: most likely excellent, one about First Aid & Rescue Squad
[ *] Teacher Recommendation: Chem teacher (good/excellent), History (excellent), Precalc (excellent)
[ *] Counselor Rec: okay
[ *] Additional Rec: from mentor from UMDNJ
[ *] Interview: hoping for the best</p>

<p>[ /list][ b]Other[ /b][ list]
[ *] Applied for Financial Aid?: no effect
[ *] Intended Major: Biology and Econ?
[ *] State (if domestic applicant): NJ
[ *] Country (if international applicant):
[ *] School Type: class of 438
[ *] Ethnicity: Indian
[ *] Gender: Male
[ *] Income Bracket: no effect
[ *] Hooks (URM, first generation college, research, etc.): internship/published papers? fbla 6th place at nat's?</p>

<p>I plan on applying to the program ED. How much should that increase my chances?</p>

<p>I was admitted into LSM this year RD. We had about the same stats and your ECs are (much?) better than mine. I’d bet alot of money that you get in. Tho to be fair, I was from an underrepresented midwestern state…not sure if that played a major role or not, but just so you know =D.</p>

<p>are you asian? lol because that’s one of teh factors that would greatly hurt my chances. also, are there any stats as to how many people apply to the program and how many people are accepted?</p>

<p>Nope I am white. Idk about the whole White vs. Asian thing. However, I will say that when I reviewed all those Ivy Results Threads, it looked like Asians and Whites were treated about the same in the admissions process. </p>

<p>Officially, there are no stats released. I think the acceptance rate is around 20% for this program. But to be honest, that statistic doesnt really tell much. The applicant body is HIGHLY self-selected. Its kinda like how everyone knows Caltech is one of the hardest schools to get into despite its abnormally high acceptance rate. I mean the LSM program is not widely known, only top applicants in science/business would know about it. Now, I dont know if this is true or not. However, an LSM junior told me your application is reviewed and “accepted” into Wharton and the college b4 it even goes to be reviewed by the LSM program. I am not sure what each school’s individual acceptance rates were ED (obviously they are a bit higher than the RD statistics). Wharton admitted something like 6% RD and I know the college admitted just under 10% RD. So, again, that 20% stat is very deceiving.</p>

<p>Most people in the progam who I have met have published research in some form and done very well in Siemens or Intel. I did some research, but I published nothing and didn’t enter any big research competitions. I’m sure you could look up my stats/ECs and etc as a reference point. Like i said, tho, you have great chances.</p>

<p>Whoa, we have almost identical stats: Indian guy from NJ, classes at Princeton, Columbia SHP, too many AP’s, nearly identical SAT and SAT II scores… except I graduated from hs 3 years ago. I got into LSM and your stats are definitely where they need to be. It’s really going to come down to your LSM essay, where you need to communicate genuinely and specifically why you need LSM and not a single-degree program. Most people fall into two categories: future doctors who want to develop their business acumen or future businesspeople who want a strong foundation in life science to specialize in health care, pharma, or biotechnology. There are others who may want to work in policy or research or public health, but I would argue it doesn’t necessarily help to avoid a more common LSM path as long as you are a good fit for the program and your application tells the same story that you claim in your essay.</p>

<p>As for racial diversity, check out how many Indians are in the program by browsing the LSM website’s rosters. It seems like Penn overall wants to achieve specific “diversity” objectives, but specialized programs like LSM are concerned only with fit and ability.</p>

<p>Yes, Robbie is very white! ;-D haha</p>

<p>you should seriously try to enter in Siemens or Intel… or both! They are very highly regarded by colleges; even if you don’t win any prizes, it is still impressive that you even entered the competitions IMO. </p>

<p>I think you have a decent shot; I agree with quakergoats tho; since your scores are great, your essays are really going to be the part of your application that you should work on the most at this point. Dual Degree programs like LSM are really about whether or not you are the right “fit” (as quakergoats also emphasizes)… so start cookin up some guuud essays!</p>

<p>did u guys write ur essay on “how you will engage academically at penn” in reference to one school (wharton or CAS) or talk about both?</p>

<p>Also, did you get in ashwin?!</p>

Did you get in? Doesn’t Wharton require you to have taken calculus?