Chances FROM CALI

Colleges and Universities A-Z Georgetown University
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<p>Applying: EA to SFS
White Male
School: Private Catholic (non-Jesuit) All-boys
Location: San Francisco, CA</p>

<p>GPA-4.00 unweighted, transcript doesn't list weighted GPA
Rank-1/178
SAT I (composite)-700 CR/800 M/690 W(but they don't look at W)
SAT II-These are from October, so they may or may not look at them
-Math IIC-750 -Lit 680 (ugg), taking World History, US History, and maybe Spanish in December. </p>

<p>APs taken-
AP World History-5
AP European History-5
AP English Language-4
AP Environmental Science-5
AP English Literature-This year
AP US History-This year
AP Calculus AB-This year
AP US Government-This year</p>

<p>APs not taken that were offered. Pscyhology, Statistics, Physics, and Spanish. One kid took 9, but he took Pschology and Stats instead of Calculus. I would have taken Spanish, but I would have had to drop AP US history and AP US gov't. I explained this on my applcation. I took Spanish IV instead. </p>

<p>I've taken the few honors classes my school offers.</p>

<p>ECs-Basketball
-Starter on Varsity Junior and Senior Year on HIGHLY successful teams
-Captain Senior Year
-100 hours of community service, volunteering at an adult day care center
-Founder/President of Schools' European American Club (school is 20% white and all the other ethnicities had a club)
-Editor of Editorial Section of School Newspaper Senior year
-NHS (required 30 hours of tutoring per year)
-CSF (Cali version of NHS)
-Learning French on my own
-Debate international politics online with other mature adults
-Studied and read on the differences between American and European culture.</p>

<p>I basically mentioned those last three in that special talents and skills section of the app. </p>

<p>I talked about basketball and what I've learned about life from it in the section where it asks you to describe your most important EC. I'm the coach's son so I had to deal with a lot of scrutiny and doubting, even from teammates. I talked about how I learned to do things for my own well-being, not to make other people proud.</p>

<p>Essays-Personal One-I talked about the diversity at my school and how it has affected me and partially sparked my interest in International Relations. My school is 20% White, 20% Filipino, 20% Asian, 20% Hispanic, 10% Black, 5% Arab, and 5% other so it is REALLY diverse. Well written, but my interviewer said it was an outstanding topic.</p>

<p>Global Issue-I talked about the future of NATO and Trans-Atlantic relations, and why I thought NATO was vital to the security of the West. Very well written and thought out. </p>

<p>Interview-Only lasted 45 minutes, but we really clicked. He only spent about 10 minutes asking me the questions he said he "had to ask." The rest of the time he asked me questions about myself and we talked about the different aspects of Gtown. We joked around quite a bit too. It was really short because it was in the middle of his work day, and he knew I had to get to basketball practice. </p>

<p>So what are my chances?</p>

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<p>I dont know about the your stats but I have to thank you for your contribution to the Georgetown forum. You are helpful in almost all possible situations. And this is coming from someone who is in the same boat as the rest of us. Thank you for answering our questions and keeping the sometimes inactive Georgetown forum active. I hope you get merely by the fact that you seem like a cool, helpful guy.</p>

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<p>Lol thanks man. I am known for being one of those laid back kinda guys. Thanks again. I just try to be helpful.</p>

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<p>Obviously with a school like Georgetown, it's hard to call anyone no matter their grades, activities, etc. a lock, but I really like your chances.</p>

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<p>Le bump, bump.</p>

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<p>I hate bumping, but...lol</p>

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<p>-Founder/President of Schools' European American Club (school is 20% white and all the other ethnicities had a club)</p>

<p>-Debate international politics online with other mature adults
-Studied and read on the differences between American and European culture</p>

<p>Your numbers are great but those three activities sound nauseatingly pretentious. The top (all the other minorities had one...) comes across as arrogant. The second sounds like you just post on a message board and the last echoes the first. If you handled them well in the skills/talents section you should be fine, but the way you presented them here is awkward.</p>

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<p>We have a Asian Student Association, African-American Students Union, Latinos Unidos, United Arab Club, Filipino American Club, but we didn't have a "European-American Club." I don't understand how founding a club for white guys interested in their European heritage is "arrogant." I talked about my school's diversity in my first essay, explaining how much it changed it me. I didn't say anything about the school being 20% white though, but I thought some people might see the club as pointless in a school where 80%+ of the students were white. That isn't the case at my school. </p>

<p>The 2nd is exactly what you said, I only mentioned it in one sentence in my "important talents or skills."</p>

<p>The 3rd I mentioned in "important talents and skills." I mentioned a specific book that I've read on the differences between American and French culture called "Sixty Million Frenchmen can't be Wrong." I put that in along with learning French on my own.</p>

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<p>Yeah, having a European-American Club isn't racist at all. What's so different than that from having a Native American Club or a Chinese Club?</p>

<p>I don't get it...</p>

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<p>While whites may only comprise 20% of your high school, they comprise 80% of the United States. Now, if your school is full of European immigrants and expatriates, perhaps you'd be justified in celebrating "white culture," but it sounds like rather than taking advantage of this diversity, you isolated yourself in a very ivory tower and elitist organizations. (I'm saying all of this as a very white American in the south)</p>

<p>That being said, I don't think your inability to get over this obsession with being white will keep you out of Georgetown, but it doesn't speak much about your character.</p>

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<p>Incidentally, if you're interested in learning more about your "European Heritage," consider taking the plethora of courses in the vein of AP European History, AP US History, etc.</p>

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<p>heh I think I know what school you go to if you're the ones who won the SF football game a couple of weeks ago</p>

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<p>@icierair: he doesn't go to bcp b/c it doesn't have an european-american club, it doesn't offer ap us to seniors, and it's definitely NOT 20% white.</p>

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<p>Ryan, ARE YOU KIDDING ME?</p>

<p>Why is it any different to have a white minority club than a black or asian one?</p>

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<p>Because if a white American wants to celebrate his culture, all s/he has to do is take a history class (most of which are Eurocentric), celebrate Christmas/Easter/any other western holiday, or go to a different part of San Francisco and talk to other white people. Filipinos and Arabs don't have the luxury of taking AP African/Asian History or learning Tagalog or Aramaic in school.</p>

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Because if a white American wants to celebrate his culture, all s/he has to do is take a history class (most of which are Eurocentric), celebrate Christmas/Easter/any other western holiday, or go to a different part of San Francisco and talk to other white people. Filipinos and Arabs don't have the luxury of taking AP African/Asian History or learning Tagalog or Aramaic in school.

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<p>First off if you had read my first post you would have noticed I HAVE taken AP Euro History and got a 5. I've taken World History and got a 5. I'm currently taking AP US History. </p>

<p>We do celebrate Columbus Day and St. Patrick's Day at school, while at the same time educating the rest of the student body about the history behind the two holidays. </p>

<p>Ryan, I'm not trying to be offensive, but we live in two polar opposite parts of the country. Have you been to San Francisco? It is THE most liberal place in the country and there is NO talk of white supremacy or elitism. I've never been to Mississippi, so I can't speak about it. Nobody at my school looks down on the club, nor is it only for white kids. Our secretary/treasurer is Chinese and another kid is Filipino. As I said, it's not a WHITE kids club, it is to talk about European culture and heritage, not about what white people do. Only the kids that are interested in their (or others) European heritage are in the club.</p>

<p>For all that you that were wondering I go to Archbishop Riordan in San Francisco. Come watch a basketball game and you'll see me, lol.</p>

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Because if a white American wants to celebrate his culture, all s/he has to do is take a history class (most of which are Eurocentric), celebrate Christmas/Easter/any other western holiday, or go to a different part of San Francisco and talk to other white people. Filipinos and Arabs don't have the luxury of taking AP African/Asian History or learning Tagalog or Aramaic in school.

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<p>I guarantee that most Arabs and Filipinos that are interested in their own history will learn about it independently. For the Arabs and Filipinos that aren't interested, I am sure that their parents will teach it to them.</p>

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<p>goodness...</p>

<p>such tension!</p>

<p>on a lighter note... i was just wondering: akajjred, you ARE troy bolton. as in high school musical. basketball kiddo who's pere was the coach.</p>

<p>if you haven't seen hsm, go watch it NOW.</p>

<p>and then smile, since you ARE troy bolton.</p>

<p>:)</p>

<p>the end.</p>

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<p>Lol, I'll check it out, but sometimes it straight up sucks being the coach's son, especially when you're on a competitive team with high expectations.</p>

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<p>oh, i know!</p>

<p>well... i dont' know... but it seems pretty difficult in high school musical...</p>

<p>haha i realize i sounded like an idiot there, but it was kind of on purpose.</p>

<p>ps i seriously can't believe you haven't seen hsm. it's amazing. and hilarious. please see it asap :)</p>

<p>pps does your dad pressure you too, or just le team?</p>