Chances? Inflated self opinion or possible?

<p>Read this thread. Hopefully you guys will learn something from it. That fellow was similar to you "delhi junta"</p>

<p><a href="http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/international-students/523354-what-probability-i-will-get.html%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/international-students/523354-what-probability-i-will-get.html&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p>

<p>Another funny read here.</p>

<p><a href="http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/what-my-chances/507610-foreign-student-i-m-hypms-right-2.html%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/what-my-chances/507610-foreign-student-i-m-hypms-right-2.html&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p>

<p>You have good stats, Tuna, but you're very naive. Even after someone told you there is no point asking stuff like "am I in?", you insist on adding that into so many of your replies in that thread. Lulz.</p>

<p>S33D: Well, if you managed to go through ALL the pages of my chance thread, my reason for applying to only the top schools is because NUS, which ranked 10th for technology last year is my fall-back safety. I'd rather stay here in singapore and study in NUS than going far off to the United States just for a mediocre college. I reiterated this point at least a gazillion times! Plus, the ivies are not just big for name value, they're big on rankings too, and so are Shubham's other univs (mine too...); Tell me, given a choice, you'd rather want to go to an IIT Delhi (cuz of the IIT brand-name) or a DCE; which for many fields like Automobile Engineering offers WAY better opportunities, but well, lacks the IIT branding! Also, as far as I can tell you, the reason why people like me and Shubham use CC IS to do our research. I'm pretty sure Shubham had some learning outcomes from this thread just as I had tonnes of things to learn from my own humongous-ly long chance thread. My point here is, you ask us to do our research beforehand and well, though it might sound ironic, when we post every post here on CC, we ARE researching!! Apart from that, well, I agree, I do try and get chances everywhere. Not because it's gonna boost my ego (or as it turns out, destroy it!), not because it makes a difference on MIT's or the Ivies' or even Purdue's decision, but because it makes me understand where I stand in this rat-race for US university admission and how I may improvise from here (my asking of which is blatantly obvious from my thread...) I understand that it might get irritating for all of you Univ Admission Gurus (read S33D) out there to see us n00bs, but well, instead of bluntly calling us dumb to be looking at these univs, perhaps you could suggest a good list for both me and the OP!
As for the Delhi junta, what I meant was that well, we do seem to start by looking at uber-prestigious colleges... why? Cuz those are the colleges we know about at THAT POINT OF TIME! Personally, I din't even know what Swarthmore or Vassar was before turning on to CC. So was intended in those lines was that, that's the kind of list we begin with, cross-out names, add in others to get to a proper, balanced, thought out list in the end! I guess that'll make you and others who think like you understand what we're on with... Yup! That's all for me! But thanks for the "good stats" compliment, mann! :)
Perhaps, you'd like to chance me (haha... I can see you rolling your eyes going- NOT AGAIN!!). Would be kinda nice because you seem to be more pro at this then well, me to say the least! yup! :)</p>

<p>that was lo-oo-o-oooo-oong! lol! :D</p>

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perhaps you could suggest a good list for both me and the OP!

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I cant do that, because so far the only thing I have been able to deduce about what you want from a college is prestige, and a ready-made list is available for that: USNews Rankings.</p>

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I'd rather stay here in singapore and study in NUS than going far off to the United States just for a mediocre college

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Here is where you are mistaken. Not being high on the rank list doesn't make a school mediocre.</p>

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Perhaps, you'd like to chance me

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I am not in any position to chance you for schools like HYPMS etc</p>

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I understand that it might get irritating for all of you Univ Admission Gurus (read S33D)

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I LOLed.</p>

<p>Anyway, I suppose for people who are looking on securing a good job without any connections there's no other choice eh</p>

<p>I guess 100%Tuna said everything I needed to. :) <em>High five!</em> Lol</p>

<p>S33D, dude, some people aren't as intelligent as you are! So instead of instinctively knowing where we'll fit in, we start with the colleges we know about, then go about deleting and adding other names as our horizons expand. I mean, go easy on us, we're a bunch of kids! CC is definitely a part of the college research, and I guess I definitely have a much better idea of other better suited colleges from my chance threads, thanks to people like you who actually guide us. I really appreciate that, but what appears as my blindly following rankings is just a preliminary assessment of the schools I know about. And if that appears to be prestige hunting, cmon, I'm not gonna settle for a school with no prestige. That, btw,just in case you misunderstand me again, is different from saying schools other than the Ivies have no prestige.</p>

<p>Lol, the "delhi junta" guy's from kolkata. i guess it'd be bharatiya junta if you really wanted to brand it something lol. i agree it's a part of the mentality out here, but prestige isn't the main factor always.</p>

<p>I was referring to his mindset, not his location.</p>

<p>Anyway good luck. I found out most of the important admissions info too late and didn't apply to any big names at all, but I'm happy with where I'm headed. I think that's what should matter the most. If nothing else, it'll be an adventure atleast. :P</p>

<p>If you really like a school, regardless of whether it is #1 or #100, go for it. Just do it for the right reasons, whether it is prestige or a good fit. Whatever rocks your socks.</p>

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I mean, go easy on us, we're a bunch of kids

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You're 16/17, no? About time you start growing up, especially if you want to study abroad. Heheh. :P</p>

<p>Erm, ignore that, bad attempt at psycho-geographical humour :D</p>

<p>Nothing else matters if you're satisfied! :) So what are you planning to major in?</p>

<p>And I'm 15. I agree with the "about time I grew up" point, but we're still "college-process-kids" Lol! That's why we need you guys. :) Thanks!</p>

<p>I'm not exactly satisfied, but I'm happy. There's always that little Indian inside you, tugging at you and crying about not going to MIT or Harvard eh? I wonder how you can get rid of it.</p>

<p>As of now, I'm planning to double major in Honours Mathematics and Economics. Might change to Physics instead of Econ.</p>

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I agree with the "about time I grew up" point, but we're still "college-process-kids"

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As long as you are in the growing up process as well, haha. I know people who think it's something that happens automatically after every birthday. (Un)fortunately they don't realize it's something you have to consciously attempt to do. That's the difference between the 30 year old kids and 15 year old adults running about.</p>

<p>Just my point! MIT Harvard "Types" (lol! That's how ppl refer to them!) figure big on the list of every US ed aspirant from India....it's just an integral part of the lure I guess.
Math And Economics would be NAice! :) i had econ in 11th for like almost both the terms, but it was so easy that i got bored and switched to bio like two months before the finals. And bio is equal to the size of physics and chem put together. Studied just 33% of the syllabus right before the finals, and you can imagine how I screwed up my results. it was better than i expected though, I didn't quite flunk <em>Useless piece of information</em></p>

<p>I might qualify for the 15 year old adult tag. I'm in grade 12 when most 10th graders are as old as I am. You get termed as kid when you're actually the most mature. Kind of sucks. Hehe</p>

<p>Hmmm.. College freshman at 16ish? Cool.</p>

<p>:D I love it when I get the "You're too young to be intelligent in 12th" com(pli)ments lmao! You can call it THE tinge of egotistic pride :D</p>

<p>Freshman at 16ish. Very cool :D lol</p>

<p>We still need a PROSPECTIVE COLLEGE LIST lol (w/ intl fin aid)</p>

<p>wooh, gaurav, even minus the caps, i knew that. My brain has put up a permanent sticky note on my monitor (read, eyes)</p>

<p>I'm one of those Indians who has weened herself off rankings and prestige after spending loads of time on CC. When I came on this site, the only things I knew about American universities were the Ivies, the SAT and the US News Rankings. Over time, I've realized that items 1 and 3 in my knowledge bank are really not the be-all-end-all of my American dream (although item number 2 stands high on the importance list when it comes to admissions).</p>

<p>I had NO idea what an LAC was. To tell you the truth, the moment I decided on planning to attend an American uni, I set my sights on Harvard and Princeton. My parents, being typical Indian parents, couldn't have been happier that their daughter was 'dreaming big'. </p>

<p>But now I've changed. A LOT. Harvard never will figure on my college list; LAC's definitely will. I realized that I was blindly being lead askew by prestige. But to what avail? The point of going to college is to get an education; in my case, it is to escape the rigidness of the Indian education system and really push my boundaries. Harvard and a lot of other big-brand colleges are fantastic places for a graduate education. LAC's, OTOH, give everything they have to undergraduates. If that isn't devotion, I don't know what is.</p>

<p>Anyway, the gist of my post is that there's a lot of stuff out there that isn't titled 'Harvard' or 'MIT'. When I apply next year, I know that I'll get a truckload of people asking me why I'm not applying to either of those two places. I'll have to launch into this big theory of mine a billion times to give them an explanation which will probably leave them shaking their heads anyway. My parents were quite skeptical as well when I put my theory forward to them - 'You aren't interested in H and P any more? Why?'. Now, thankfully, they're seen my point. And as long as both my parents and I know that I'm getting myself into a situation that is the best possible scenario for me, I know that I'm on the right path :).</p>

<p>And about the prestige factor - I bet you guys are gonna pursue a grad school education after 4 years (I just know you will, being Indians ;)). Here's the deal - grad school adcoms know LAC's and revere their graduates immensely. So getting into a 'big name' grad school is definitely not out of the question. This way, you can get both the education (LAC) and the prestige (big name grad school). Very possible :).</p>

<p>That's a much better way of putting it! :D What LACs do you have in mind? Just asking so as to have something on LACs to build upon. btw, what's your take on Colgate?</p>

<p>I'm in the class of 2014, so I'm not really consolidating a list at the moment :D. Anyway, I think you should give the Counselor-O-Matic on Test</a> Prep: GMAT, GRE, LSAT, MCAT, SAT, ACT, and More | The Princeton Review a try; it's pretty good at taking in desired characteristics and giving you schools that fit you.</p>

<p>Colgate is a great place, very well reputed - especially in the northeast. Big Greek scene down there, which sort of puts it away from my radar. Poster ajayc will be going there this fall, he should be able to help you more than me :D.</p>