<p>I am a recruit for a few d1 Ivy League schools and am wondering of my chances of getting through the rigorous admissions. The coaches have communicated that I am a top recruit and are also confident that I can get in but that sometimes there are some upsets.
here are my stats: </p>
<p>GPA: 4.0- no weighted as my school does not offer AP
SAT- not submitting
ACT: 27- going to study and retry as I think I can get 29/30</p>
<p>anyways I know these are obviously low if I was applying as a non recruit but since athletes but so much into their sport we are given the benefit of the doubt. Also keep in mind that I am a helmet sport and the coaches will definitely be pulling for me.
Thoughts?</p>
<p>fwiw I can only speak for a non helmet sport…our scholar-athlete had over 700s in all sections and when the first try of the ACT was a 31 the coach said “nice start”…second attempt was near perfect. So the ACT score in my mind is too low.
Take both the SAT and ACT to see which format is better. For ivies you will need SAT2s IF you submit SAT1. Otherwise they take ACT w Writing</p>
<p>We know several women Ivy hockey players. If you’re a top recruit with a 4.0 then your 27 will probably get it done, but they always say they want a 30.</p>
<p>Anyone have thoughts on SAT II scores? Daughter scored 2000 (superscore) on SATs but SAT IIs were low (590 and 610). She’s being recruited by Ivys – will this take her out of the running?</p>
<p>I know that non helmet sports are much more strict so I’m hoping I don’t get screwed over. hopefully my 90+ in every subject will help my 27 act. imafan- what sport?</p>
<p>It should give you an idea. The coaches can also give you an idea of where your student stands. Some sports/teams/schools require higher scores. HYP needs higher than Brown, Cornell etc, but only by a few points.</p>
<p>the athlete should realize they are applying to a top educational institution – not a pro sports team. And I would think they would want to know they were academically “worthy” and prepared!</p>
<p>Just spend some time studying for the tests and retry. You are blessed that your threshold is below the average it seems thanks to the coach.</p>
<p>I know a couple of Ivy athletes with 35 or 36s on the ACT and 2300s plus SAT2s at 750 - 800. And the same 4.0s straight As. PLUS they also excelled at their sport to the highest level to be skilled enough to be recruits with Likely Letters. So those Ivy admission committees had no doubt those kids could handle the workload – and their sport at a top educational institution. Hats off to these scholar-athletes! I witnessed firsthand how hard it was for them to pull As in lots of AP/Honors classes (with occassional all-nighters) while oft physically exhausted from a yearround sport training 20 - 24 hours a week before matches.</p>
<p>Haha I’m laughing. Actually no if I were them and an athlete took my spot I wouldn’t feel screwed over. Do you realize how hard student athletes work? Many have higher gpas than non athletes while still playing a sport at a national level. Sorry that my act is not a 36?! Generally those with the near perfect scores don’t get in because they’re socially awkward. So I think I’d rather be on my end with the 27. Not a poor attitude.</p>
<p>Um Emily, I think you missed the part where my post indicated those athletes ARE ALREADY IVY ATHLETES – as in ACCEPTED and IN and/or ALREADY STUDYING & PLAYING at IVYs – unlike you who is yet to apply. One at Harvard last year, 2 at Yale this year. It’s Reading carefully like this that will help Your ACT comprehensionesque scores… Clues like “Admissions HAD no doubt” and “I know a couple of IVY ATHLETES” (not applicants or wannabes))" are key. </p>
<p>And to broadly say that a 36 ACT = socially awkward makes me question if YOu would fit in at these schools! Your unfounded rude generalization is inaccurate – “those with nearly perfect scores don’t get in” … I’d prefer to be applying to an Ivy as an athlete or nonathlete with a 36 over a 26 anyday, lol. Wouldn’t you? Perhaps you should brush up on Accepted Students’ stats threads in here first?</p>
<p>puhappy… ummmm I was agreeing with you. my last post wasnt even in response to you! it was in response to the people who said I have a poor attitude. Thanks for personally attacking me though. Reading section I got 31 so okieeeeee. Anyways, clearly no one on this forum including yourself understand my sport so ill leave.</p>
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<li><p>As starsky stated, although coaches look for better scores; a top female hockey player with a 4.0 and a 27 ACT can get in.</p></li>
<li><p>IMO, the term “screwed over” implies that you were cheated out of something that you deserved. If you do not get in because your academics or athletics are not what your prospective university requires, you are not being “screwed over.” You simply weren’t what the coach or college was looking for at that time. </p></li>
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<p>It is no different than losing a close, but fair, game. You were not cheated or “screwed over.” You simply lost.</p>
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<li>Some students view athletes as dumb jocks that don’t deserve part of an Ivy League university. Many of us find it offensive that our children, who graduated at the top of their class and had near perfect test scores, are viewed as less worthy of admission simply because they were recruited athletes. It doesn’t help when an athlete assumes that smart students are “socially awkward,” for no other reason than they did well on standardized tests.</li>
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<p>Alright, to each his own. Well I’m at the top of my class too and an athlete so I don’t think that would make me a dumb jock. So I find that offensive</p>
<p>Also, screwed over was the wrong choice of words. Everyone on this forum is vicious honestly. I only said the people with 36 are socially awkward because one of the users above was saying they might feel screwed over if they got rejected. I don’t mean they’re literally socially awkward, I meant clearly admissions wasn’t happy with something on their application.</p>
<p>I know a hockey player with almost identical stats to yours. She’s a great hockey player (currently a college senior and captain of her team); was valedictorian; and had lots of other leadership positions at school. And an ACT under 30. She was rejected outright ED by her first choice, D1 school (not an Ivy but a top school academically) and ended up getting into her second choice, top 20 D3 school in the 2nd round early acceptance. However, the coach asked her to get her ACT up to a 30 first, which she finally did, fall of senior year. </p>
<p>If the coaches are even mentioning upsets, I think that’s a strong hint to you to be studying for the ACT. Yes, you might get in…but if someone with higher test scores comes along, well, there are only so many likely letters. Why take the chance? </p>
<p>Why not the SAT, by the way? People often do better on one than the other. I’m assuming you tried and your ACT was stronger?</p>
<p>thanks for the info! I tried the SAT and got a 1790 and the 27 ACT translates to about the same so I thought I’d stick with the ACT so I don’t have to take 2 subject tests. One of the schools is a lower ivy and said I’m basically a shoe in but the higher tier one that I really want to go to said its more difficult to get in so I’m going for a 30 this time since I’ve been studying a lot.</p>
<p>^^^ For more “vicious honesty,” consider the following. </p>
<p>Any–and I mean any–Ivy League coach that tells a recruit that he/she is a “shoe-in” <em>without</em> the benefit of a formal Likely Letter is simply just blowing smoke. And this is especially true for someone with a 27 ACT score (even in a “helmet” sport). Sure, 4.0s, student “leadership”, etc. are wonderful things, but standardized testing is partly designed to smoke-out possible grade inflation. With an ACT score of 27, it will all come down to how you rank on the coach’s recruit “wish list.” The only way to figure out your position on an Ivy coach’s “wish list” is through the Likely Letter. Again, for any Ivy recruits out there, without a Likely Letter you have <em>nothing more</em> than any other of the literally tens of thousands of other applicants.</p>