Through the green card lottery, chances in Germany are quite good. Well, the reason I want to go to an American college is that I need an American degree since med schools barely accept any foreign graduates. With a college degree and a green card my chances would be as good as any other American citizen’s. In Germany I can directly go to med school but it’s 5 years + an intern year (which I could do in America). Could I go to German med school for 3 years and then transfer to college when I have a green card? Would I get the American college degree after an additional year or isn’t that possible? On the other side, if I only went to college for a year that would be affordable and with a green card I would be eligible for financial aid at med school. However, the reason I need an American medical degree so bad is because I want to do a really competetive residency in neurosurgery and as a foreign medical graduate I stand no chance. You see the pattern? No American college degree > no American med school > no residency. So either I get into a need blind uni or I wait three years and then go to college for a year? Does that sound like a plan?
No money for American college + hoping for free tuition + no financial aid for US medical schools (only more loans, needing about $400K) + pining away for Green Card lottery = very bad logic
very bad logic + slim chances at attending a “Ivy” college = no chance at Ivy college
Also, very bad logical thinking = very rocky path to becoming a physician one day.
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It’s not that much of a reach, chances of getting a green card are 1:25, if I apply every year it’s only a question of time when I get one. Amherst University is need blind, so that would be a possibility.
You asked a question. We answered. You persist. This has now become a pointless discussion since clearly you don’t believe us, or don’t want to accept reality.
Go ahead, apply for the green card lottery. Before the new president does away with it completely.
And so many posters here on CC are eager to attend German universities because they are “free”!!!
You don’t just waltz into Amherst. There are only a handful of schools that are need blind for internationals and every international knows Amherst is one of them. The competition to get in as an international is fierce.
Winning the green card lottery is like winning the Powerball in my home state. But, if you don’t play and your chance of winning is zero. So, keep on playing those green card lottery and the Powerball as you never know that one of these days, you will hit homerun. Just saying it while cooking my Turkey.
In Germany the chance of winning is 1:25, that’s not exactly unlikely.
1 in 25 is about the chance to accepted to Harvard as an undergraduate so go for it. Best of luck!
Chance of winning is 1: 25? really? so, those german citizens have a good chance to move to the US? However, they do not want to move here since their country is very westernized, industrialized and advanced in culture and monetary aspects. Germany is proud country and their education is very advance too If I were German Citizen, I would not move to Russia, the USA and/or any banana republics. But, that is just me and to each-each own as this is a free world. Good luck playing those lottery tickets and may the Force be with you. And I am back to cooking my turkey again.
I know I could stay in Germany and directly go to med school without having to go through college and all that for free but I really want to do my residency in America and the longer I wait the slimmer my chances get. If I apply for residency as a foreign medical graduate I’ll never get into neurosurgery so I need to find a way to graduate US med school.
It’s “Amherst College”, not “Amherst University”. Amherst is a small liberal arts college (not a large university), with a total enrollment of about 1,800.
The top liberal arts colleges are small and have high retention rates, so they don’t usually have many openings for transfers. There is often high demand for the few available slots, and so the transfer acceptance rates may be relatively low. Amherst’s transfer acceptance rates, from the most recent Common Data Sets:
2015-16: 472 transfer applicants, 36 admitted, 7.6 % transfer acceptance rate
2014-15: 414, 33, 8.0 %
2013-14: 471, 20, 4.3 %
2012-13: 509, 21, 3.6 %
2011-12: 502, 22, 4.4 %
OP said: know I could stay in Germany and directly go to med school without having to go through college and all that for free
I would say: why don’t you go to school in Germany to pursue your medical school and at the same time you keep playing your green card lottery. Once you have obtained your degree in medical school then try to find a job in medical field in the US. I know some Taiwanese doctors who have been practicing medicals in the US. They are smart and have passed the medical exams and licenses in the US. Anyway, the tuition and fees of medical schools in the US are astronomically high and rarely they give you any loans, scholarships, etc. Especially for any foreign students, the chance of obtaining those is zip, nada, zero. Also, if I am not mistaken, to apply for medical schools in the US, you need to have green card or citizenship.So, then again keep playing your lottery and applying into german medical school. Anyhow, still another two hours before my turkey is done…I am going back to tend my cooking hubba…hubba.
The path for you is not easy to say the least. If you attend college and medical school here you will end up owing $600-700k in loans if you don’t get financial aid for your undergraduate degree. You still would have years of residency before you start making any decent money and then you would spend years and years trying to repay the student loans. Does that sound more appealing than a free education in Germany?
OP, do you realize that international students must often put up the cost of their ENTIRE med school education in a special account before they can be admitted? In other words, you PREPAY $200,000+… good luck with that if you don’t even have money for undergraduate studies.
I have no idea why you don’t want to do your residency in Germany (what, they don’t have neurosurgery there??) but the fact is, you’re fantasizing about the most expensive education available in a country with the most expensive education system in the world.
That’s the reality: money will be a barrier for you at. every. turn.
So, you should attend medical school in Germany and play the green card lottery. Try to get certified for EMT in Germany. When you win, move to the US, train as an EMT or get recertified, work for a year to gain residency somewhere, and go back to school.
This is all so screwy. A 1.9 out of 6 (or is it 5?) is roughly a 3.5 in the US. There’s been a lot of not performing at the top level a US tippy top expects in a transfer. It’s pie in the sky to assume OP will achieve perfection in one year at a German U. Plus achieve enough in the rest of his or her experience to be compelling.
And you don;t just walk into a green car without the proper justification. Sheesh, if it were easy, tons of students would go for one.
Many US colleges also require foreign students to attest they have the funds to pay for four years.
“I have barely any money.” You really need to think this through rationally. The top colleges expect that.
Proceed with caution- and be informed. It seems the green card lottery deadline for 2018 has passed. You can check that. The competition for a transfer admit will be fierce. Posters have tried to tell you.
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In another thread you write: “My grades are not bad but they’re not exceptional” and downplay your Ivy league chances. You’ve been told that transferring INTO top schools is even more difficult. You’ve been told that your searching for “free tuition” at a US college is extremely difficult and ignore the logic of the fact that the most generous US colleges are also the most competitive (you know – because others want free tuition too).
You’ve countered each bit of advice (I’ll get a Green Card, I’ll take loans, I’ll still afford $400K for US med school). It seems you have all the answers already.
OP: In Germany, you go to medical school after High School while in the US, you go to medical school after getting a bachelor degree from a college. And going to college in the US is expensive for any foreign students. Financial help for foreign students is hardly any; only a select few schools will be able to help.
After college then you go to Medical School in the US. Med schools are notoriously expensive, difficult to get in and more expensive than college.
I know medical doctors make good money in any countries in this world. I have never heard of poor doctors with meager salary for entry level jobs and in the long run, good doctors will make a good living. So, why you need to go any US medical schools while if you are a doctor in Germany, you will make a good living too. I am not trying to put you down but you are against all odds.
Why don’t you be proud of yourself by going to german med school and be debt free (free schooling etc). And after obtaining your degree, you show the world what a german doctor can do.
Or, if you still like to pursue a career as medical doctor in the US, you need to marry us citizen and move to the US. Then take medical school exams and certification so you can practice meds in the US. Gott segne dich und Auf Wiedersehen.