<p>I am med student from Europe. As you probably know, system here is very different, I finished 2 years of med school, which includes almost all pre-med courses from USA, chem,biochem,organic chem, biology,physics,anatomy,physiology,histology,immunology,central nervous sytem etc...</p>
<p>I decided I dont want to finish med school, I want to transfer to 4 year college in USA, so I was hoping many of my courses will be admited, and I can go to USA college for 2 years or something like that.</p>
<p>I read that's possible and they would accept my passed courses.</p>
<p>Though, i dont know where to start... do i need to take SAT or I go as transfer? any advices???</p>
<p>i was hoping i can get to spring semester somewhere, my favorite is Seattle area, but now looking that SAT scores take 6 weeks to get.. i guess i am late for admissions even for spring quarters.</p>
<p>With two years of college under your belt, there should be plenty of colleges that would consider your application without SAT scores. You might need TOEFL scores though unless you are currently living in an English-speaking country.</p>
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<li><p>College is expensive. Expect to pay $15,000 to $30,000 per year for tuition alone. Add cost of living expenses. Don’t expect to earn much money because your student visa will severely restrict your employment options.</p></li>
<li><p>The US is big on a general liberal arts education. For example, Western Washington University mandates that all students take 30 credits in various humanities and social science disciplines. That’s an entire year of coursework in addition to your major requirements. Even if all of your courses transfer, you may need more than two years to finish all general education and major requirements.</p></li>
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<p>From a financial and academic point of view, it would probably make more sense to start working on a different degree in your home country, unless there is something that specifically draws you to the US.</p>
<p>so there’s not big chance to get some scholarship? </p>
<p>“Don’t expect to earn much money because your student visa will severely restrict your employment options.”</p>
<p>what about math tutoring, private? do people do this often in usa? those who are good in math.</p>
<p>The US is big on a general liberal arts education. For example, Western Washington University mandates that all students take 30 credits in various humanities and social science disciplines. That’s an entire year of coursework in addition to your major requirements. Even if all of your courses transfer, you may need more than two years to finish all general education and major requirements.</p>
<p>*** i dont understand this. if all my courses transfer, that’s approx 4 semesters, and then if i spend 2 doing various humanities and social studies disciplines… why i cant finish within 2 years. Though finishing in 2,5 would be okay too.</p>
<p>and i know it’s more logical to start something new in my country, but it’d take me 6 more years, i dont even know what exactly i want… so US seems like the best option (seemed, before finding out how expensive it is hah) </p>
<p>what about transfering to Community College and then transfering with good grades to some 4 year college?? can i transfer with enough credits to get for ex. 6 semesters accepted, and only be in college for 1 year after cc.</p>
<p>i have excellent HS grades, mediocre college grades, few gap years, and I have few “medals” from National math competitions in HS, 1 first place in whole country, and 2 second places. Those were individual competitions, not group, only me. Also participating on some European competitions. I planned to ace SAT, prepare a lot. </p>
<p>I dunno is this anything that could help me.</p>
<p>math tutoring ? you mean like off campus, teaching at someone’s house ? unless its on campus and approved by your school, you could get into serious trouble for violating your student visa terms. most intlls work for money to go out on the weekends and stuff. don’t expect to be able to earn enough to be able to pay for a significant portion of your tuition…</p>
<p>iirc its 20 hours per week max, 8-10$/h avg salary. so you get a maximum of 800$ a month.</p>
<p>unless it is on campus, no. i think students can work off campus (interns, etc), but there are additional restrictions involved. you’d be best asking this question to the international students office at the school you plan to go to.</p>
There are three requirements for an American college degree:
general education requirements
requirements for your specific major
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<p>You would be good on (3), but (1) and (2) combined might take more than 2 years. The problem is that your current coursework is a broad assortment of science courses. It’s not focused enough to help you significantly towards a major, but also not broad enough to help you with general education requirements. A general biology degree might have the most overlap with the courses you have already taken, but is that what you want to study?</p>
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What degree would you get after those 6 years? How does your country feel about 4-year Bachelor’s degrees from the US? What are your employment options after college? (Most countries award Bachelor’s degrees after a 3-year course of study. If college degrees in your country take 6 years, they might lead to a more advanced degree, and you might be at a severe disadvantage to compete for jobs with only a Bachelor’s degree.)</p>
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<p>Many schools offer free tutoring services to their students. There is much less demand for private tutoring than in other countries.</p>
<p>so you are suggesting i should give up right away right?</p>
<p>based on WHAT? i am sorry, but you cant give so serious suggestions without basing them on something very good.</p>
<p>i understand that chances are low, but you are making it the same as “dont try at all”.
i get so many confusing answers on this all… </p>
<p>i KNOW few yrs ago i could go ANYWHERE (to ivy or wherever) bc of many successes, its so hard to accept that only few yrs change so much???</p>
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<p>I see. I thought about this, yep. The answer to your questions is NO, i dont. Maybe minor in bio or something, but THE REASON i am trying to transfer is to TRY other things (mostly arts and social sciences).</p>
<p>However, there are 2 options that might change some things:
this year (2010/2011) i can pick whichever courses I want, mostly. I found a loop in our system… so i’ve planned to take some basic courses, like math, etc… that would transfer too.</p>
<p>Other thing is; i am okay with spending 3 yrs in USA college. only 4 would be a drag. but 3 would be okay, i dont expect to finish in 2 yrs.</p>
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<p>I’d get M.D. degree.
In my country, Bachelor’s degree is after 3-year… however, since i am in medicine school: it’s either 6 and M.D. or nothing! so if i drop out after 5 years, i am left with HS degree!¨!! this is a reason why i want to get away from here!</p>
<p>bachelor degree here is 3 yrs
masters is 2 extra yrs
5 all together</p>
<p>medicine is seperate from all that.</p>
<p>in other words, no, i cant finish bachelor now, only if i stick for 6 yrs which i cant bc i am NOT interested in medicine</p>
<p>so if i’d have to spend 3 yrs in US or here, i’d rather go there!!!</p>
<p>also, here those 3 yrs is again, only ONE thing. if you pick psychology, you cant try ANYTHING else! i cant do that AGAIN, bc it already didnt work. that system where i need to decide before trying doesnt work on me,.</p>
<p>i still have dreams, which i didnt have oportunity to pursue here, nor will i have if i stay here, bc of the school system.</p>
<p>also, i went to “specialized” high school. it was mathematical-informatic gymnasium, best in my country.
many courses were like trigonometry, programming, … all advanced.</p>
<p>IB program was also in my school, same program, but i went to one in my native language, not IB.</p>
<p>understand this: scholarships for transfer students are non-existent. there’s nothing you’re going to be able to do about it. cough up the cash or forget about it. the US education system favors top students or students with money. thats the harsh reality.</p>
<p>going back or not isn’t really up to you. the economic situation in the US isn’t good at all. this isn’t the dot com era when the work visa limit was tripled (iirc) and unless you have a desirable skill, finding an employer who is willing to sponsor your work visa (taking into account the fact that there is probably an american who can do the same job, without the uncertainty of being able to get a h1b visa) is not going to be easy. at all. you’ll probably get better employment options in your home country. why are you giving up medicine ? its a pretty stable paycheck, especially in this economy.</p>
<p>at this point you’re counted as a transfer student, so your high school GPA is pretty much redundant.</p>
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please… after which year students pick major in US?</p>
<p>… also… is there a list of those 30 credits (or how much) of liberal arts that most colleges require to take? (bc i could take some here in my country in 2010/2011 and then transfer those too, at least few credits would work)</p>
<p>wait…why then most colleges say that they do consider transfers for scholarships?
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<p>ah, too much hear-say, tbh. you cant know will there be american who will be able to o my job. i could marry in us, cant i ? </p>
<p>i think the subject will i go back or not… isnt important right now… i will leave it for future far future…</p>
<p>and even if i go back after bachelor degree… i am fine, bc i can go for masters for 2 years anywhere in my country. and i dont really plan to go to school until forever… i plan to work something freelance… am not really school type</p>
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<p>bc i dont like it. not good enough reason? should i study what’s good in this economic?i am surprised by answers like this! damn… i am one of those people who cant be happy while doing something they dont like, ya know</p>
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<p>as transfer there’s no way to be considered “top student” ?</p>
<p>i dont know i was 1st on national competition in math among 45 000 people. that doesnt mean anything to any-****ing-one ?</p>
<p>then why don’t you apply in those schools ? you’re asking a question, getting an answer and then insisting its wrong. what the hell man.</p>
<p>hearsay ? lol, you could marry but if immigration finds out its a sham, you’ll still get kicked out. its happened to two people i know. </p>
<p>why ? most people here are realists, hence the straightforward posts. i’d be lying to you if i said you could just get a degree and then a job. unless you’re from a top school + high GPA or know somebody who can pull a few strings at a company, its not going to be one bit easy.</p>
<p>why don’t you go to the US for grad school instead ? if your main aim is to emigrate to the US, that’s the easiest way to do it. there’s a slightly higher cap for students with masters and phds.</p>
<p>i am listening to both sides, checking info, its logical to ask why then websites state they give scholarships to transfers if they NEVER DO. isnt it logical ? nothin personal.</p>
<p>just; are things on websites a lie?</p>
<p>or how do you know they NEVER do… you know everybody who applied? no,really. if you say something like NEVER… at least give good enough reasoning.</p>
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<p>you assumed the wrong thing again. i meant, marry for real. if i ll be there 3 yrs… maybe i fall in love… is that that hard to believe that american citizen would maybe marry me, and not for visa? LOL</p>
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<p>hm. you know how it will be in 4 yrs? i dont know. i think americans are too dramatic about their economic situation, it’s still way better than where i come from. you should see how people live here.
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<p>wait; grad school is AFTER Master? so i’d have to finish here 5 yrs</p>
<p>why? bc the system here is that i need to decide before trying. i dont-know-what-i-want.
i can next fall go to, ex. journalism… and if i figure 2 months after that i dont ike it i need to wait whole year and go to something else. no switching. no diversity.</p>
<p>you’re referring to scholarships for DOMESTIC (read: american) transfer students, which is still do-able. NOT for international transfer students. there is alot of fin aid available for americans, not so much for internationals. they’re probably referring to domestic students. email them and verify. once again, why bother asking if you’re going to insist its wrong ? </p>
<p>suit yourself there</p>
<p>again, you’re wrong. i’d be surprised if the economy fixed itself in 10 years, let alone 5. and how people live in a country =/= economic situation. countries like china and india are perfect examples of this. </p>
<p>no, grad school is after your bachelors degree. you go to grad school to do your masters/phd.</p>
<p>seriously, at this point you have nobody but yourself to blame. nobody changes major that many times. how can you not know what you’re interested in ? surely you liked one subject more than another in HS ?</p>
<p>i’ll leave it at this, since clearly you seem to think you know better. oh and pls post back here when you get that transfer scholarship :)</p>
<p>many college sites say its possible to get fin aid as international transfer. i know how to read, ffs.</p>
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<p>you know me, my life, to tell that? ***.
also, who’s to blame is irrelevant now.
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<p>how many times? 1 time? </p>
<p>and IF I AM NOT MISTAKEN: in USA when you get to college, first you listen many courses… and then after (2 semesters or 4?) you pick major. Not right away!!!</p>
<p>we pick it before listening 1 hour of anything, and we listen (as you can see from my OP) only that, nothing else.
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<p>i am interested in many things but cant pick one.
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