<p>I applied to Penn early decision and i have a 4.0 weighted but my SATs are lower than what falls under the normal paradigm for a college of this calibur. I took them twice and my best scores are math:600 critical reading:630 writing:650. My act was a 25. and my sat IIs were math1:680 us history:530 I recieved my interview and was told i "nailed it." I also have excellent teacher reccomendations and extracurriculars, although i never went down to guatemala to work in a soup kitchen. do i have a reasonable shot? i cant sleep and i am sooo nervous about this. any insight would be much appreciated.</p>
<p>which school would be nice..</p>
<p>oh sorry the college of arts and sciences. and i specified that my major would be french studies. i also recieved a reccomendation letter from a french professor and he and the alumni who interviewed me told me i was "perfectly qualified."</p>
<p>You should be alright</p>
<p>thank you very much. i really cannot handle the stress anymore and i am losing hope for this college when i read things like 800 800 800 5.2 gpa rejected. anyone else out there?</p>
<p>To be honest, 4.0 WEIGHTED with those kind of standardized testing scores put you at a severe disadvantage for Penn CAS. Not to put you down or anything but thats the reality of things if you want an honest opinion. However, I wouldn't be surprised if you got in with a special hook.</p>
<p>I'm sorry to pour some cold water over you but my the girl who interviewed me said upenn uses SAT/ACT scores as a means of eliminating weak applicants. They have this score which is like the bottomline score. Everyone below that score gets 'binned', aka into the bin. So i think you are pretty dangerous with a 25 on ACT. Might get binned? </p>
<p>Just so you know everyone above that bottomline score, they don't loook at it further. they don't give a damn between a 2400 and a 2200. but you must be above that line.</p>
<p>just conveying what i heard. not my thoughts or reasoning.</p>
<p>the line is a 2200? what about a 2190...haha</p>
<p>Penn gets 23000 applicants. At a certain point, they have to start using numbers -- that's a HUGE amount of kids to read over!! But don't give up hope - if they want you there, you'll get there.</p>
<p>hdwang, do you have any clue about what this bottom line is?</p>
<p>hdwang, I do not believe you. The interviewers don't necessarily know what's going on</p>
<p>i have no idea what the bottomline is but the girl that interviewed me said it goes with the percentile? </p>
<p>and trust me i didn't make **** up. it's what i heard and i'm just telling you guys. i don't want it to be true too. Its unfair when you saved the world from global warming and world hunger and your SAT was just shy by 10 points.</p>
<p>was thus an alumni interview?</p>
<p>Of course there is a line but i think it bends quite often given various circumstances-- grades, classes, ecs, hooks, region, ect.</p>
<p>HOWEVER to be honest collegeboundkid my SATs score are significantly higher than yours and I think my scores could be my tragic flaw (sorry writing an essay on tragic heros). Stranger things have happened but if I were you I wouldn't be putting all my eggs in one basket. (trust me I already have and I am freaking out) </p>
<p>sorry about the overabundance of metophors.</p>
<p>2200 is by no means the line. The AVERAGE score at wharton, out of 1600, is 1430, whichs translates to roughly a 2140. Half of the class has less than a 1430, and if i remeber for last year the CAS average was 1390...don't get the wrong idea about the "line"</p>
<p>you know what i dont get? how about the fact that i am presently ACING calculus or last year on my IB math studies test i got a 6/7 or on the math 1 sat i got a 680 all that is going to be overlooked by the fact i didnt get an 800 on the math section of the sat? that is a major flaw in my opinion. the fact that i write tons of essays and commentaries other forms of writing and i have probably read more books than the normal applicant but because i didnt get an 800 on the critical reading section of the sat all the work i have done and all my good grades in adv english over the years will be simply discounted? i know this is how the game works, and that there must eventually be number crunching to "weed out" the weak applicants, but now more than ever do i feel that standardized testing will make me feel that all my hard work and effort over the past 4 years was done in vain.</p>
<p>Yo collegeboundkid it's true that that does suck but you just have to roll with the blows. The fact is while lower SATs will hurt you, you won't get "cut-off" or some crap like that. They will still read your APP and consider you holistically. Besides ED apps went down so its not like they are being flooded out right now</p>
<p>Bottom Line: If the rest of your app is strong then you still stand a chance, don't write yourself off to quickly!</p>
<p>Good Luck!</p>