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Colleges and Universities A-Z University of Pennsylvania
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<p>Just like the rest of you guys, I'm anxious and freaking out.
Anyone wanna chance me?</p>

<p>4.0 GPA
14/590
SAT's not so hot:
610 Math
610 Verbal
640 Writing
AP Scores:
Physics:1
APUSH:2
Italian: Projected 2 [there was tape damage so w/ the tape it would've been a 3]
EC: National Academic League 9-12 [Current Captain]
Mock Trial 10-12 [Current Co-Captain]
NHS 10-12 [Current President]
Founder of Book Club-Current
School Newspaper 10-12 [Current News-Editor]
I've worked at a nursing home for over a year.
I had two internships [one paid] at law offices.
Awards:
World Languages Honors Convocation Honoree
2007- Keystone Press Awards 2nd Place in Spot News
I think my personal essay was inspirational and well-written but everyone I showed LOVED my autobiography page 217. It's imaginative and makes the reader want to know what happens next and I know that nobody else wrote anything similar.
Wow Friday is approaching so soon yet it seems like 4ever!</p>

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<p>ah a normal person!!! thank god.. haha it is so nice to see someone like me without near perfect SAT scores. My prediction is accept.. just because you are in the same boat as i</p>

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<p>ouch. your scores are gonna hurt, not gonna lie.</p>

<p>extracurricular look interesting</p>

<p>any hooks? ethnicity? geographical location?</p>

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<p>see I was thinking along the same lines, alot of the people they accept have outrageously high standaridized test scores. However, I'm from Philly so idk if they really want people from the area when they can have more nationwide representation. Then again, I bet most of the ED applicant in this state were rich kids in the suburbs so maybe they want kids with a story from an urban school like mine?</p>

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<p>im a female and jewish [that doesnt help since im not a minority and yeah the scores hurt but i know people still get accepted with scores like those]</p>

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<p>hmmm...depends what your story is I guess.</p>

<p>EDIT: sigh* i hate college admissions. I hope you get in. you have a decent shot with ED. good luck!</p>

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<p>thx, anyone else care to offer an opinion?</p>

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<p>you have a shot because people who live in the city limits get a boost in admissions, but the issue is that black kids from the city are gonna apply with similar stats and get in ahead of you.</p>

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<p>False.</p>

<p>If you're from the city then your school has a relationship with Penn so you should compare your stats with kids from your school only. If you go to CHS/Masterman then you look fine. If you're from the suburbs then I don't think your residence helps but I could be wrong.</p>

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<p>To be honest, I don't think you have a chance at Penn. While your 4.0 shows a strong work ethic, your AP scores indicate that your classes aren't too difficult or that you have serious grade inflation. Your SATs don't help your case, either; don't take rejection too harshly. I'm sorry, but it's very unlikely that you get in.</p>

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<p>im from the NE
and i still think i have a shot at getting in because the test scores aren't everything
but im not feeling too confident :[</p>

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<p>I really believe you have a chance of getting in.
I dunno, but I think some schools force people to take AP tests, and which may force people to have such low AP test scores.
Number two, the school is huge and that means more competition to be first. If you had a magnet or IB program there, being 14 must be an accomplishment.
Also, AP TESTS are for Placement Purposes. It has the least to do with your application. As long as your grades were stable throughout your four years and if you showed some form of dedication and uniqueness including some form of interest into your major, nothing can stop you. I'm pretty sure the people who responded have something to prove to be telling you these things. At least offer some kind of advice.
On the plus side, your EC and internships sounds very interesting. If you were going to be a lawyer, you are probably in. Besides you are a innercity person. As long as you show that you took up all the opportunities you were offered, then nothing can deny you.</p>

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<p>ANYTHING WITH >> means that you are good
ANYTHING WITH XX means it's not required
ANYTHING WITH OO means may not help
ANYTHING WITH ?? means I don't know those details.</p>

<p>Admission Policies and Factors</p>

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<p>Very important admission factors:</p>

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<p>Taken from the Collegeboard Website.</p>

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<p>Your scores fall below the 25 percentile of those accepted. Penn takes its applicant's SATs very seriously, because they are a major factor for selectivity.</p>

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<p>Since people like to play by statistics, I would like to know how:
of the 3,888 admitted
467 people had her CR score [544 Under Yours], 544 people had her Math score [505 Under Yours], and 427 had her Writing Score [467 Under Yours].</p>

<p>Penn</a> Admissions: Incoming Class Profile
Incoming Class Profile
Statistics for the Class of 2012</p>

<p>Volume
Total Applicants
22,935 Total Admitted
3,888 (16.95%) Total Enrolled
2,445 (62.89%)</p>

<p>Early Decision Applicants
3,912 Total Admitted In December
1,147 (29.3%) Total Deferred In December
1,250 (32.0%) Deferred Applicants Admitted In April
130 (10.4%)</p>

<p>Rank in Class
(16,848 applicants attended a secondary school that did not provide rank in class)
Rank Percent Admitted
Valedictorian 45.1%
Salutatorian 34.0%
Other Top Five Percent 17.7%
Second Five Percent 8.3%
Total Top Decile 21.6%
Second Decile 3.0%
Second Quintile 0.2%
Third Quintile 0%
Fourth Quintile 0%
Fifth Quintile 0%
No Rank 16.9%
Incomplete Information 0%</p>

<p>Distribution of SAT Scores
Score Percent
Admitted
Critical Reading Math Writing
750-800 30% 23% 30%
700-740 22% 18% 21%
650-690 18% 15% 15%
600-640 12% 14% 11%
550-590 8% 8% 7%
500-540 5% 4% 4%
Under 500 1% <1% 1%
ACT only 17% 17% 17%
Incomplete Testing 0% 0% 0%
Total 16.95% 16.95% 16.95%</p>

<p>Testing Means for the Middle 50 Percent of Admitted Students
(25th-75th percentiles)
Test Range
SAT: Critical Reading 650-760
SAT: Math 680-780
SAT: Writing 670-760
ACT Composite 31-34</p>

<p>Characteristics of Enrolled Students
Number of Secondary Schools Represented
Applicant Group
6,332 Admitted Group
2,146 Enrolled Group
1,506</p>

<p>Secondary School Distribution
Public
55.1% Private
39.8% Parochial
4.9% Home Schooled
0.2%</p>

<p>Sons and Daughters of Alumni
Applicants
1,343 Admitted
450 (33.5%) Number Enrolled
361 Percent of Class
14.8%</p>

<p>Multicultural Background Number Enrolled Percent of Class
Black 231 9.4%
Hispanic 182 7.4%
Asian 569 23.3%
American Indian 8 0.3%
Total 990 40.5%</p>

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<p>While it's true that there appear to be around 13% of those admitted with scores in the 500s, I wonder how many of them had more than just one section that was that low. If any, I'm certain that it was very few, and that they were either internationals or athletes.</p>

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<p>Sorry but basically everyone with those scores have hooks/ are there for sports</p>

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<p>muerteapablo makes a good point if people just has just one section that was low.</p>

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<p>I have about the same SATs as you (640s across the board) and my interviewer told me I have a good chance of getting in ED. The only thing is that I have a hook (I am extremely active in the visual arts and am applying to fine art, which he said would help me a TON). If your essay is as unique as you say...it may serve as a "hook". Good luck though! At least you know, like me, that if you are rejected its PROBABLY because of numbers.</p>

<p>Lets just both hope Penn cares about more than numbers.</p>

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<p>guest.. i know that its not based solely on numbers...
but i am saying that applicants that are on the lower end need to have something else that is "special" about them.
if one student has high scores and nothing else as well as one student has lower scores and not really anything else, probably neither will get in but the one with higher scores is obviously the stronger applicant.
and stop incorrectly inferring from my statements. im just trying to state my opinion... you don't have to agree...
and btw, please don't argue with me about this and just leave this conversation where it is and focus on the applicant.</p>

<p>and as for the OP, my previous comment wasn't even directed at you. it was directed at the people who were talking about testing scores because you seem to be an an interesting applicant despite your test scores.</p>