Chances!?

Colleges and Universities A-Z Cornell University
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<p>what are my chances RD. . .applied to ILR</p>

<p>SAT I : 2170 (670 M, 730 V, 770 W)
SAT II: Literature 760, US History 620</p>

<p>gpa: 3.8/4.0 - grades stayed great all 4 years, no major fluctuations
rank: 9/120</p>

<p><em>all</em> honors and AP classes since 9th grade - (took every AP/honors class provided by my school except AP Calc)</p>

<p>AP US History (3), AP Physics (1-this will hurt me), AP Bio, AP Euro History, AP English (taking these three this year)</p>

<p>good EC's. . .JV (2 years) and Varsity (senior year) Basketball, Varsity Track and field (2 years), homeroom rep of Student Council, co-editor of literary publication, various italian language awards, nat'l honor society, italian honor society, alpha honor society</p>

<p>sufficient (not a lot) of volunteer work</p>

<p><em>very</em> good essay, unique experience, great supplement essays
probably extremely good teacher recs
guidance counselor is very absent-minded, can't count on that reccomendation</p>

<p>2 campus visits</p>

<p>accepted early with scholarships to:
Fairfield U
Fordham U
Villanova U
Loyola Coll
also some extreme safeties</p>

<p>deferred from bc early action</p>

<p>waiting to hear from BC and cornell RD. - Cornell is my big reach school, I think.</p>

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<p>if i had your stats, i would be feeling confident about being accepted to both... however, you got deferred from BC?</p>

<p>i know people in my school (non urms, no legacies or anything) who got into BC Early Action with sub 1300 SAT and lower grades.</p>

<p>my point is that elite college admisisons are quite a gamble playa...you can never be sure either way</p>

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<p>wow, yeah it really bothers me that I got deferred. . .I personally know a guy that got in EA with lower SATs, lower GPA, and very substandard EC's. . .</p>

<p>my school is kinda crappy, it's a catholic school, not that competitive, maybe that has something to do with it. . .</p>

<p>also, this guy was half-chinese. . .i think my whiteness is not helping me out in admissions either</p>

<p>anyway, thanks for responding!</p>

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<p>lol. I don't think being asian helps much either. I'm personally against affirmative action and think it is reverse discrimination toward minority majorities such as asians. I don't recall asians in US History enslaving anyone. In fact, the original asian immigrants to the US suffered from just as much discrimination as the African-Americans, yet interestingly, the asians are now considered the most well-off minority in the US. Interesting... sorry... just had to vent a little... still really confused and frustrated about affirmative action.</p>

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<p>Question: I'm really bad at AP Physics, but I pulled off a B+ just because tests are 35% of the grade...I'll probably do really sucky on the AP test...will cornell think it's fishy if i don't take the AP test or should i still take it and risk getting a 1 or a 2?</p>

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<p>i completely agree. . .reverse discrimination</p>

<p>it makes me so angry. . .being white is probably worse than being asian. . .either way it affects us badly</p>

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<p>if i were you, i'd take it anyway</p>

<p>I had A- to A averages all year in AP Physics, and I still got a 1 on the AP test. . .its just really hard</p>

<p>But I think it will look bad if you don't take the AP test, honestly.</p>

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<p>first urm's don't get into college because they are a minority. affirmative action is for preventing discrimination against qualified minorities and women. Colleges and employement take the most quailfied and derserving canindates from all races. too bad your an underachieving asian. an underachieving urm isn't going to take a spot you deserve.</p>

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<p>"affirmative action is for preventing discrimination against qualified minorities and women"</p>

<p>Really? Interesting. . .if it was, wouldn't they get rid of the "ethnicity" and "sex" questions on the application?</p>

<p>Under Affirmative action, a same or lesser qualified minority can be admitted to a school in place of a more qualified or equal non-minority candidate.</p>

<p>And that's not reverse discrimination?</p>

<p>Also, just for the record, I'm not Asian.</p>

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<p>if they did how would they know who was who? sorry i guess you are just underperformed compared to the other applicants with your stats. its really bad that you feel you are losing a spot to affirmative action, becuase the last time i looked at class demographics urm's weren't making up more than 10% of a class- how do u make up the other 90% of non-urm's? don't blame others or a policy for your short comings.</p>

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<p>my shortcomings have nothing to do with it</p>

<p>I was commenting on the fact that the "policy" discriminates against non-minorities such as myself. Even if I had better grades/sats/etc, it would not change the fact that affirmative action means that minorities are favored over non-minorities if the policy is in effect.</p>

<p>Anyway, I dont understand how a student's ethnicity/school diversity/whatever the goal of affirmative action may be. . .is more important than a student's academic/athletic/extracurricular or any other accomplishments that make the person a qualified candidate.</p>

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<p>I will not participate any further in this discussion. i do not need to get any point across in this discussion. institutional racism in this country will not be solved because the steps to end it are not understood and are mistaken as an attack on the status quo,under the coined term of reverse discrimination.</p>

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<p>you commented that your friend was half-chinese? you think asians are considered a minority? a harvard report said that if affirmative action was eliminated, the percent of asians accepted at elite colleges would rise the most.</p>

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<p>Yes, I do think Asians are a minority. . .colleges have groups for minorities called AHANA. . .African American, Hispanic, Asian, Native American.</p>

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<p>let me rephrase that; asians are a minority, but are actually over-represented at top schools, and therefore HURT by affirmative action more so than any other group</p>

<p>and this isnt just my personal assumption- anyone can tell you this. my counselor even admitted it; all the college books i own state it</p>

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<p>I might have missed something, but wasn't that my point? I was trying to say that even though asians are minorities in the US public (~2%)they are considered the minority majority (~ 20%) at top schools in the nation; therefore, there is reverse discriminating against them. I think in my government book it states that at certain UCs asians make up about 40-50% of the students.</p>

<p>Well anyway, sorry for stealing your post nymetsgirl, I really should have known that bringing up affirmative action would cause some heat.</p>

<p>I personally think your chances are average. As you stated, that 1 in Physics will not help much. Your SATs are in the range for acceptance but they don't help you much either. Furthermore, there is a 15% increase in applications this year, or so I hear, which will not help much either. But with all this in mind, you still have a shot. I would say not bad or good - just average for Cornell (which is not bad considering it is an elite college you are aiming at). Just apply and keep your hopes up. I hope you get in :).</p>

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<p>You shouldn't have listed the 1 you got on the AP exam.</p>

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<p>so, if i could potentially get a 1 on the AP test, i should still take it?</p>

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<p>I thought I had to list the AP scores. . .wouldn't it look worse if I didn't?</p>

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<p>Thanks. . .that's pretty much what I figured, my stats are average for cornell, no better or worse. . .</p>