<p>Since UC accepts 97% of people instate, will a typical good grade student like me be able to get in to UC-Berkeley, UCLA or USC? Or do I have to stand out extra more than a regular Californian?</p>
<p>Also, if I do get accepted, can I move to California to get an instate tuition?</p>
<p>um i think the answer to your second question would be no, but i'm not sure.</p>
<p>And, I thought USC wasn't apart of the UC-system, so it's not as hard for OoS</p>
<p>yeah your right. USC isn't. sorry about that!</p>
<p>lol, UC-Berkeley has an acceptance rate of like 25% for in-state and 20% for Out of State, you definitely need to be waaay more than your average good grader to get into UCLA or Berkeley.</p>
<p>Well, it depends on what you define as typical. Last year, the freshman class at both UCB and UCLA consisted of only around 8% of OOS students. So if you figure they probably accepted somewhere around 15% OOS (factoring in the % yield), you would need to be in the top 15% to have a good shot (theoretically). That would mean an SAT score of around 2270 AT LEAST and Berkeley, and around 2230 at UCLA, according to data released from this year's incoming freshman. Top 15% was estimated, but top 25% at Berkeley begins at 2170, and around 2140 at UCLA. The avg. unweighted GPA at Cal and UCLA was around a 3.96, while the avg. weighted was around a 4.3, on a 4.0 scale. So, again, theoretically speaking, you would need to be in the top 15% or so of all applicants, and score around 150-200 points higher on the SAT than the "regular" applicants from CA. They literally have two piles in the admissions office as well, one for in-state applicants, and one for OOS. So essentially, you would be competing against all other OOS applicants.</p>
<p>To answer your second question about residency, you AND your family would have to move here and work, unless you decided to become financially independent and work here for a year. It's really a very complicated process that's not worth it unless you have another reason to come. Plus, the cost of living would probably way over-ride the cost of tuition.</p>
<p>Good news is, USC is a private school, so they don't care where you come from.</p>
<p>Hope that answered your question!</p>
<p>With state schools, you always have to stand out more if you are applying out of state.... They are inclined to take people from their state (that's why they are filled with kids from within the state). Also, if you are accepted, everybody moves there to live on campus lol. you have to pay out of state tuition of course.</p>
<p>You most certainly do not need a 2270 to get into berkeley out of state. Would it help? Certainly, but it is not necessary.
If the 75% for Berkeley's accepted students is a 2170 (which includes oos'ers), one doesn't need to be that much ahead of it anyway.</p>
<p>No, you can't move to CA before school begins and say "look, I'm a CA resident!" For that matter, it is unlikely you will ever qualify for in-state rates.
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To establish California residence, an adult student at least 18 years of age must be a U.S. citizen, permanent resident, other immigrant, or eligible alien who meets all of the following requirements:</p>
<pre><code>* has been physically present in the state for 366 days prior to the residence determination date (RDD) of the term for which he or she wishes to be considered a resident
* has the intent to make California his or her home (as opposed to coming to California for the purpose of attending school)
* is financially independent (see note) if his or her parents are not California residents as defined by UC.
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<p>Physical presence within the state solely for educational purposes does not constitute the establishment of California residence, regardless of the length of stay. The student must demonstrate this intent by severing residential ties with the former state of residence and establishing those ties with California. If these steps are delayed, the one-year duration will be extended until both presence and intent have been demonstrated for one full year.</p>
<p>If the student's parents do not meet the requirements for residence for tuition purposes, the student must be financially independent in order to be a resident for tuition purposes.</p>
<p>Note that the financial independence requirement makes it extremely difficult for most undergraduates whose parents are not California residents, including transfer students from community colleges and other post-secondary institutions within California, to qualify for classification as a resident at a University of California campus.
<a href="http://www.registrar.ucla.edu/residence/establish.htm%5B/url%5D%5B/quote%5DPersonally">http://www.registrar.ucla.edu/residence/establish.htm
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Personally</a>, I don't understand why people want to pay over $40K/year to attend a UC school. They're a great deal for CA residents, but for $40K you could go to a school that has a much more student-oriented atmosphere (advising, small classes, personal attention from faculty, etc).</p>