<p>Lawmakers</a> Want to Limit Non-Va. College Students - washingtonpost.com</p>
<p>These</a> proposals come up every year. You can track them on Richmond Sunlight. It's hard to compare Virginia and North Carolina in this area. The funding for higher ed institutions is a bit different.</p>
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Lawmakers already are considering cutting funding for higher education by about $296 million over two years to address the state's $3.7 billion shortfall. State aid accounts for 18 percent of William and Mary's operating budget and 8 percent of U-Va.'s.
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"We're in a situation where we have the 'University of New Jersey-Charlottesville' campus and the 'University of Pennsylvania-Williamsburg' campus," Del. Timothy D. Hugo (R-Fairfax) said. "I think that needs to come to an end."
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Wow.</p>
<p>Why not just boost OOS tuition to something comparable like U of Michigan? Let the market decide...</p>
<p>I support raising the number of Virginia students at state colleges and universities. It is a shame that more of our students are not accepted to UVA, Virginia Tech and William and Mary and have to attend out-of-state schools. My daughter applied last year with a 3.9 GPA uw, 6 AP's, and tons of EC's. She did not make it in to those schools. She was accepted at Penn State, Ohio State, NYU, Syracuse and Northwestern.</p>
<p>interesting since we have had zero acceptances to UVA-Charlottesville from our NJ public in the last 5 years......</p>
<p>Dean J- I don't get the last quote and what he was referring to. Was he saying the schools are heavily represented by outside areas? Or was he referring to OOS schools' campuses spread all over? It seems like the comment is definitely a "wow" comment but I'm just wondering what you think he's talking about.</p>
<p>Was the UPenn thing a subtle joke or (god forbid) ignorance from an elected official?</p>
<p>Lock,
good catch, lol. I think he meant Penn State.</p>
<p>Maximus,
that's pretty unbelievable!!!</p>
<p>I also feel for the poor valedictorian student in the article. That kind of thing is unacceptable.</p>
<p>The rep is saying that we have so many OOS students that UVa and W&M could be considered other stats' universities.</p>
<p>Again, changes in ratios are proposed every year and these same articles get written. The bills fail every time. If one passes and the state funding remains the same (or is cut, as the article says may happen), we will probably see in-state tuition rise dramatically, larger class sizes, and other effects fairly quickly. </p>
<p>P.S. Investigate what "valedictorian" means at different schools. The definition varies. There's a school I love that routinely reports 40-45 vals. Practices like that are why school profiles are so important in our review. </p>
<p>As I've said before, we</a> can't admit all qualified applicants. We don't have enough spaces to do that.</p>
<p>Yeah, my school definitely has around 50 valedictorians each year. It's kind of hilarious when that many people stand at graduation when valedictorians are being announced!</p>
<p>Well the idea of valedictorian itself is silly when you have so little difference in GPAs to separate them. I guess that's why some schools decide to give the title to a bunch of students with very close GPAs.
I understand you can't admit all qualified students but still, It's hard not too think about all the IS qualified students who would have been admitted if fewer OOS were. There is plenty of diversity in Virginia to choose from frankly.</p>
<p>I think it's a healthy balance. I have many OOS friends and they bring vital personalities to UVa, and all schools. What if you had a really well qualified OOS student that didn't get admitted? OOS kids that aren't admitted are often brilliant, but there's not enough room. I'm not for raising the percentage, but it's unfair to just say "let's nix em all".</p>
<p>W&M should go back to its roots and become private. If the state of VA cant appreciate the jewel they have as is, see how they like it when maybe 20% of the students are in-state.</p>
<p>An update to the story...
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Kaine: Limits on Out-of-State College Students Troubling
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<p>Virginia's governor said legislative limits on out-of-state students at state-supported colleges are not a good idea.</p>
<p>Bills before the General Assembly would restrict the number of non-Virginia students public colleges and universities could accept.</p>
<p>The bills arise from difficulty home-state students are having getting into Virginia schools.</p>
<p>Gov. Timothy Kaine said the answer is for the legislature to better fund state schools, allowing them to expand enrollment and keep in-state tuition lower.</p>
<p>Schools prize the much higher tuitions out-of-state students pay to cover tight budgets.</p>
<p>On his monthly show on Washington's WTOP radio, the governor said legislators have ignored higher education for 20 years.</p>
<p>But when asked if he would veto a bill restricting out-of-state enrollment, Kaine wouldn't say.
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Gov. Timothy Kaine said the answer is for the legislature to better fund state schools, allowing them to expand enrollment and keep in-state tuition lower.
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<p>He's got my vote.</p>
<p>Before you cast your ballot you might want to ask him how much of the Federal stimulus package he will send to our state universities. 15% of the 750B from the Feds is for education. Did anyone ask him what he is going to do with Virginia's slice of that pie?</p>
<p>Talk is cheap and I'm pretty sick of politicians talking smack. Let's see if Kaine puts the money where his mouth is.</p>
<p>The House dropped the 70/30 demand. The change is dead for at least another year.</p>
<p>The</a> Hugo bill has been dead for a while, but it was "alive" as a budget amendment. Are you saying that they abandoned the budget amendment today?</p>
<p>Yes, I was referring to the budget amendment.</p>
<p>That's actually too bad. The amount of OOS students at Michigan and UVA is what attracted me to those schools. Take it from someone who attends a school (UCLA) with 92% in-state students: it's a good thing CA is a really diverse place, or it would get really, really boring.</p>