change SAT to SAT IIs for EA Nov. 1

[jetcat45]

<p>Hi. My son is going to re-take the SAT Oct. 10 bec. he only got 600M/600V/580W (took it cold June), but then he just did really well on the Sept. ACT (31 composite, 36 science, 30 or high 20s everything else except his trouble-spot, writing, only 24). He is applying to several schools with Nov. 1 EA deadlines. Wondering if he could change his SAT (if they'll let him do it this late) to SAT IIs for Biology M and Math II.</p>

<p>Questions:
1. Should he submit ONLY his ACT scores- and not re-take SAT to try to bring it up to his ACT level (now math tutor and practice)? Is ACT alone enough (with other decent school stats)?
2. The schools to which he's applying don't require SAT IIs - RPI recommends it. But he could score very high on Bio and maybe Math II. Should he bother?
3. If he takes the Oct. 10 SAT IIs, will the results be considered for Nov. 1? Do they close the file Nov. 1 or take in official testing after that?</p>

<p>Thanx. Jetcat45</p>

[Descartesz]

<p>These are difficult questions to answer without knowing the schools in question. I did look up RPI’s requirements:</p>

<p>[Admissions</a> - Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute - acalog ACMS™](<a href=“http://catalog.rpi.edu/content.php?catoid=8&navoid=177#Undergraduate_Admissions]Admissions”>Admissions - Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute - Acalog ACMS™)</p>

<p>and found that Subject tests are required for certain accelerated programs (and neither required nor recommended for all other programs) unless you submit ACT scores, in which case they are not required at all.</p>

<p>(1) Universally speaking, ACT effectively replaces SAT, and oftentimes it replaces Subject tests, too, if any are required. I note that this is true, for example, in the case of RPI. </p>

<p>(2) As I observed, RPI does not recommend Subject tests, but they should be submitted for any school that does recommend them. In other words, think of a “recommendation” as a “requirement”.</p>

<p>(3) RPI’s site states specifically that scores that arrive in Nov. are acceptable for EA. This is true for most EA programs, but check with each school of interest to be sure.</p>

<p>Assuming that RPI is the only school with any possible interest in Subject tests, then it appears he has already met the requirements for all his schools. IMO, he should feel free to follow his own inclination on Oct. 10 and take whatever tests (Reasoning or Subjects) he wants, submitting his scores only if they improve his candidacy. However, I do note that he will have to improve by about 300 points cumulative on the SAT Reasoning test to “beat” his ACT composite (see [Estimated</a> Relationship between ACT Composite Score and SAT CR+M+W Score](<a href=“http://www.act.org/aap/concordance/estimate.html]Estimated”>http://www.act.org/aap/concordance/estimate.html)). In that case I would suggest he try the subject tests to see how he fares.</p>

[jetcat45]

<p>Thanx - helpful. Do you know if he can decide on the day of the test which to take - reasoning or subject tests? Or does he need to change it with College Board now?</p>

[yankeedoodle]

<p>If he’s not applying early decision most colleges accept SAT scores up until November. Very few even accept those from December.</p>

[Descartesz]

<p>[SAT</a> Making Changes](<a href=“College Board - SAT, AP, College Search and Admission Tools”>Changing Your Registration Info – SAT Suite | College Board)</p>

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Test Change
You can change your test from the SAT to SAT Subject Tests™ or from SAT Subject Tests to the SAT if you pay the change fee. </p>

<p>There is no charge for changing from one SAT Subject Test to a different SAT Subject Test. If you want to substitute one SAT Subject Test for another, you should do that at the test center. You may substitute any SAT Subject Tests offered except the Language Tests with Listening. You cannot change to a listening test on test day because test centers must retain any extra CDs in case they are needed to replace defective CDs for registered test-takers. If you want to change to a listening test or from one listening test to another, you must do so by the late registration deadline or three weeks before the test date, if testing internationally.

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<p>I don’t know if you can avoid the change fee by advanced notification.</p>

<p>You can also increase or decrease the number of subject tests you wish to take (maximum of three) on the day of the test.</p>

[jetcat45]

<p>He’s going to be on standby for Math II and Bio M, and re-take the SAT if they can’t seat him for the SAT IIs.</p>

[pinkdove]

<p>jetcat, did you have to call collegeboard to be standby for sat II? What did you have to do? I’m looking to change my sat I to sat II as well.</p>