Change to IEOR

<p>I have been searching the boards and Cals website and I cannot find anything...
how hard is it to transfer to IEOR? I am a freshman entering into fall 2008 and i am currently in L&S in CS (even though i can't declare that until my sophomore or junior yr??)) and i started reading on IEOR and it was really interesting...</p>

<p>and do you know anyone who has done so?</p>

<p>ieor isn't too difficult to switch into, though i believe it will be a bit more of a lengthy process given that you are in L&S. if you are interested in IEOR, i'd suggest looking into ORMS, which is the equivalent (ultimately the same major) major in L&S. i've spoken with IEOR and ORMS students / graduates, and ultimately the only difference are the lower division requirements. the core required classes are very similar, and with regard to the professors on campus, they all see the majors as being the same. the only thing is that ORMS is a tad bit selective, i remember hearing something of only 25 students per year. most ORMS majors i've spoken to say they like it better because 1) physics is not required, 2) they have many options to take humanities / other interesting courses, as they are in L&S, and 3) they still learn the same technical material as IEOR kids.</p>

<p>the only upside to IEOR over ORMS i'd say is the berkeley engineering name. i'd say check out the ieor and orms website for more info about the requirements to each before looking into tranferring. take ieor 24 (fall) and 39b (spring) for more information specifically and a glimpse into berkeley's ieor department.
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<p>I would say it is relatively difficult because you are switching into the school of engineering. So basically, it depends heavily on your science/math GPA. I'm not sure but these lower divs are probably 30% A's and you probably need to be getting A's to transfer into engineering?</p>

<p>Regardless of major switching into CoE is difficult, period. Make sure you do well on the math prereqs-those are the <em>most</em> important classes if you are transferring into IEOR.</p>

<p>IEOR is a great major. I love it. Also check out IEOR's sibling, ORMS. I would say IEOR would take someone farther over a ORMS degree. The IEOR Senior Project (only for IEOR students) course can be the most tangible, and marketable part of a student studying IEOR, as you are required to work with an actual company, and you are expected to incorporate what you have learned from all the classes you've taken.</p>

<p>I've been looking doing this myself (the switch). ORMS only has 25 students in the program at a time (so that means 25 people in that major). Room only opens up when ORMS students graduate. So getting in that will really depend on luck. However, the only requirement to declare that major is that you be under a certain unit amount and have a 3.2 in their 5 core classes. (you can look all this up on the ORMS FAQ linked from the capped major page on the L&S website). </p>

<p>The difference between ORMS/IEOR is that their requirements and concentrations are different. As ORMS you will need to satisfy breadth reqs from L&S. With IEOR you will need to satisfy breadth from CoE, which includes Physics 7a/7b, math 53/54, and some other engineering courses. Also, as ORMS you can be concentrated in 4 differnt areas (econ, algorithms, systems...something like that. its all in the FAQ) or create your own concentration like legal systems (dont know *** that is though). IEORs have their concentration set already. You can check their curriculum on the Berkeley catalog.</p>

<p>oh and transferring will require somewhere around a 3.0-3.5 gpa. No more than 3.5 for sure. However, math grades need to be good.</p>

<p>I am interested in IEOR but it sounds too difficult to get in with physics and other technical electives involved. ORMS requires Econ 1 and UBGA 10, which are not cake classes either…</p>